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Early Puberty in Girls Raises the Risk of Depression
The New York Times ^ | June 6, 2016 | Perri Klass, MD

Posted on 06/11/2016 3:45:18 PM PDT by heartwood

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It isn't just the other kids. It's the grown men.

Posted because of this thread. Our commenters' debate: does being groped/catcalled/assaulted short of rape ruin a girl's life, or do girls need to be tough, and expect to be groped, and deal with it? Or does it simply make one miserable for a while, without being life-ruining?

1 posted on 06/11/2016 3:45:18 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

Annette never seemed depressed to me! And she made me happy!


2 posted on 06/11/2016 3:47:45 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: heartwood

It’s the hormones in the milk and the kardasian girls


3 posted on 06/11/2016 3:50:12 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know john 3:16)
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To: heartwood

Trying to wall off sexuality from participation in the institution of family has given girls this kind of albatross to deal with. Ample chests — check. The possibility of babies to suckle? Not so much.

I am not quite sure what is meant as an analogous measure for the boys/men. Hairy chests? The single dynamic is easier for men than for women. (I’m weird. My back got far hairier than my chest did, and it’s been that way all my life.)


4 posted on 06/11/2016 3:50:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: heartwood

I knew a girl when I was a kid that was basically fully developed (and really hot) by the time she was 12. I really felt sorry for her back then because she was simply not equipped to cope with an adult body. I feel even more sorry for her now.


5 posted on 06/11/2016 3:57:53 PM PDT by lafroste
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Traci Lords used being early developed to her advantage and got away with it.


6 posted on 06/11/2016 4:07:35 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: heartwood

>>“We didn’t see the same thing for boys.”

Well duh. That’s because boys (and men) are what they are and we are generally comfortable with that...as long as someone doesn’t come along to tell them that they shouldn’t be what they are.


7 posted on 06/11/2016 4:15:58 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: heartwood

Poor girls. There’s already far more for them to deal with than I remember the girls I knew growing up had to.


8 posted on 06/11/2016 4:18:43 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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We didn’t see the same thing for boys.

I question that conclusion. I would think that boys that developed breast at a young age would also be depressed.

9 posted on 06/11/2016 4:20:01 PM PDT by PAR35
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>>It isn’t just the other kids. It’s the grown men.

Probably because society tells them that as soon as they start to mature physically, they need to get into the skin-tight clothes, push-up bras, booty shorts, and makeup. Then, they could be 12, or they could be 32. If some poor guy thinks they’re 20, they don’t correct him because they want the attention from an “older guy” to make their friends jealous.

And I will be flamed for saying this from all the single moms out there because its important for them for their daughters to discover their sexuality, while at the same time they do everything they can to emasculate their sons because he reminds them of their ex (or baby daddy).


10 posted on 06/11/2016 4:21:32 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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Oh, no. I was a late developer, but I went to extremes when I did. I dressed modestly, and too many men still acted as if I had grown my breasts on purpose to get attention.

Revealing clothes don’t help matters, but clothes are not the main problem. The problem is the men - only a few in some groups, and a great many in others.


11 posted on 06/11/2016 4:26:26 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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And I will be flamed for saying this from all the single moms out there because its important for them for their daughters to discover their sexuality, while at the same time they do everything they can to emasculate their sons because he reminds them of their ex (or baby daddy).

Unfortunately, women do seem to have an innate disdain for male sexuality: particularly when it conflicts with their own. They would not attend to the idea men have something to be sorry/ashamed of were it not so.

12 posted on 06/11/2016 4:28:19 PM PDT by papertyger
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I am not quite sure what is meant as an analogous measure for the boys men.

The article states that scrotum and testes development is the analogous measure for males.

13 posted on 06/11/2016 4:31:25 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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...and too many men still acted as if I had grown my breasts on purpose to get attention.

Case in point.

How did you come by that impression?

14 posted on 06/11/2016 4:39:03 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: heartwood

We didn’t see the same thing for boys

Well, there.


15 posted on 06/11/2016 4:41:44 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: CaptainK

The focus of the article is not on hidden indicators of sexual development, but on the social indicators that are visible despite clothing.

A girl with breasts becomes a sexual object to many boys and men. The attraction they show to her can be extremely disrespectful. She might become an object of derision to girls if she precedes them in development.

A boy who is tall, broad-chested and deep-voiced gains status among boys. He is a more formidable athlete and competitor. Girls may admire him and be attracted to him, but they generally don’t isolate his parts and turn him into a piece of meat.


16 posted on 06/11/2016 4:44:42 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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>>The problem is the men - only a few in some groups, and a great many in others.

That’s what I’m talking about.


17 posted on 06/11/2016 4:48:13 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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I have read that early puberty is more likely from molestation, which would then further that likelihood.


18 posted on 06/11/2016 4:49:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: CaptainK

OK. But anyhow, normally these don’t become social factors.


19 posted on 06/11/2016 5:10:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Can it bring about biological change, or simply a precocious mindedness?


20 posted on 06/11/2016 5:11:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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