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1 posted on 06/17/2016 4:57:34 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper
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I heard a rumor that the father was a frequent guest a the White Hut. I wish or illustrious MSM would investigate that.


2 posted on 06/17/2016 5:00:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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4) His father meet with White House officials not long ago.

5) Every reference to his faith (which he called 911 during the attack to emphasize the relevance of) is being downplayed. Christian &/| Confederate references in other incidents are made front and center though.


3 posted on 06/17/2016 5:04:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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Ya could try an experiment, Ottawa, ask all the same questions making the assumption that the FBI is on the other side.

Now do the actions and results make sense?

4 posted on 06/17/2016 5:05:09 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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FBI kabuki theater. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. DISMANTLE all the protective agencies. Close the borders. Real Americans with guns can take care of any problems.

When seconds count...


5 posted on 06/17/2016 5:11:36 AM PDT by PGalt
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The guy is getting no funding from any outside-of-the-US group....that’s issue number one lacking for the FBI. It doesn’t appear that he’s in contact with radicals outside of the US (he is talking to radicals who are based in the US). He’s not buying tons of fertilizer (like some former US Army members we know). Maybe they spent some time on his phone-call list or internet chat selections and saw nothing much.

On a scale of one to ten for reasons to really get interested in him...I’d say at best that you have a “4”.


6 posted on 06/17/2016 5:11:43 AM PDT by pepsionice
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There are even more questions:

1) Was there a second accomplice who locked an exit door?

2) How did the shooter wound and kill 102 people when there was an armed off duty police officer at the club, who had immediate backup by two on-duty uniformed officers?

3) The three officers exchanged gunfire with the shooter, yet none were injured. How many victims, if any, were hit by police fire?

4) Why did the Orlando police wait three hours before entering the club, and how many of the dead could have been saved had they received medical attention sooner?

5) Why isn’t the wife in custody as an accessory before the fact?


7 posted on 06/17/2016 5:13:05 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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On number 2 the shop owner was just on Fox News this morning. He was reported to the FBI by the gun shop because he was asking for a specific type body armor and for bulk ammo but they didn’t have his name to provide and they had no security footage to provide which the latter is probably the fault of the FBI and the shop owner. Shop owner should have saved the footage for that day and when reported to the FBI they should have said pull the footage but by the time that question had been asked the footage had been written over.


8 posted on 06/17/2016 5:13:58 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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Government incompetence seems like the simplest answer.


9 posted on 06/17/2016 5:14:36 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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I’m not so quick to blame the FBI. They are swamped trying to keep up with the increasing number of Islamic radicals here. I heard that it takes several dozen agents to track just one person suspected of possibly having been radicalized. There are only so many hours in a day.

Then also there is the issue of profiling. Obama has directed law enforcement to be hands off dealing with Muslims.


10 posted on 06/17/2016 5:15:55 AM PDT by randita
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Fox and Friends was making the point that it was political correctness at the highest levels at the FBI that allowed this to happen. No Muslim profiling basically. Obama’s fault.


12 posted on 06/17/2016 5:17:55 AM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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Show the video of the so called survivors, being interviewed to any combat veteran and ask them about it.

I think what you will get for an answer is, that is not the way a gun shot guy acts.


14 posted on 06/17/2016 5:19:18 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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My understanding on 2 is that the shop owner didn’t give his name to the FBI.


15 posted on 06/17/2016 5:20:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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Go back and listen to Rush Limbaugh's program from yesterday (it's on his web site). He shows that Obama has a program to stop "Violent Extremism". Violent Muslim Extremism is specifically exempted from this program. Obama is more interested in Christians and Tea Party members. The program requires that investigation any individual who is a Muslim be instigated by groups such as The Muslim Brotherhood, and not the FBI.

That's right! Before the FBI can investigate a Muslim, The Muslim Brotherhood (you know, the organization designated by such countries as Egypt to be a terrorist organization), must tell the FBI that it is OK to investigate that person. So, as long as the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't wish to have someone such as Mateen be investigated, the FBI can't investigate him.

19 posted on 06/17/2016 5:24:05 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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“The shooter was recently reported to the FBI (again) by a gun shop where he asked for body armour, then a bulk order of ammunition (which they refused to sell to him). FBI still did not act, it seems.”

That is insane, but probably what happened is the person at the FBI looked at the file, said “Oh, he’s been cleared” and that was that. It is highly possible that directives regarding “not harassing Muslims” had something to do with it, in which case heads should roll. Not likely to happen though.


30 posted on 06/17/2016 5:32:36 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Trump '16! Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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Understand what the goal was when the Obama Administration ran the operation known as Fast and Furious then you will understand what is going on.

Your government has at the very least become complicent, plotting, planning and scheming in the removal of our 2nd Amendment rights. They will keep letting in terrorists and blaming it on guns until they have pushed the Idiots in demanding the wholesale confiscation of guns in America.

As for Bathhouse Barry. Face it America. He won’t address Islamic Terrorism because A) he is a Muslim or a Muslim sympathizer and b) He approves of their methods and attempt to overtake Civilized Society.

Remember, He is friends with Jeremiah Wright and Bill (the Terrorist) Ayers. His whole Administration is filled with Muslims. We heard first hand what the problem is during the Benghazi hearings when one of the on Site Security Experts testified...”The enemy is in the Building!”


31 posted on 06/17/2016 5:33:00 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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Easy. You can’t profile Muslims.


35 posted on 06/17/2016 5:40:53 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Remember...after the primaries, we better still be on the same team!)
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You forgot to add that Disney World security contacted the FBI this year to say the shooter and his wife were casing the amusement park.

How many times does the FBI have to be contacted by independent parties, about an individual already under investigation, before a light goes on?


37 posted on 06/17/2016 5:41:04 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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You can’t question the motives of actions of any Muslim until after they’ve killed someone. Even then the blame will be deflected elsewhere.


42 posted on 06/17/2016 5:49:39 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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WRT #3

Remember the (current) wife is “missing”. I think she’s spilling the beans, or has already done so (and thus needs hiding).


43 posted on 06/17/2016 5:49:48 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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0bama tried to put an end to 2nd Amendment with Fast and Furious. I think the importation of military aged middle eastern men by be the 2nd attempt to to an end to the 2nd Amendment.


44 posted on 06/17/2016 5:50:27 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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