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1 posted on 06/17/2016 7:48:07 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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More a noose than a lifeline.


2 posted on 06/17/2016 7:50:04 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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So....I’m just spitballing here but I’m guessing George Leef got an extra envelope in his paycheck to write something about how it’s okay to f@ck some poor sap out of 500% interest so he can bail out a $100 payment due.

Go eff yourself George.


3 posted on 06/17/2016 7:50:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Leftism: eliminating poverty by making it illegal.


4 posted on 06/17/2016 7:52:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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I’m guessing the banks are behind it, so they can make more friendly $5,000 bank loans and really trap the poor.


5 posted on 06/17/2016 7:54:46 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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You are misrepresenting “Payday Loans”.
Interest rates are 300%-499%. The payout can double in a few weeks.

The proprietors then try to convert them to “title Loans” where the pledged autos can then be repossessed and resold.

These types of loan traps the ignorant and leaves them despondent and broke.


7 posted on 06/17/2016 7:55:00 AM PDT by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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Loan sharks can be a lifeline for the poor too. Hell, if loan sharks had the legal means to automatically deduct 500% interest from your paycheck and other income sources, they wouldn’t need to break legs and knock heads.


8 posted on 06/17/2016 7:55:50 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Usury is immoral


11 posted on 06/17/2016 7:58:54 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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I’ve never seen someone speaking in favor of payday loans and their several thousand percent interest rates before.


12 posted on 06/17/2016 7:59:11 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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Are they freaking serious? These loans come with interest rates that would make even Ebeneezer Scrooge blush.

They’re not even legal in NY.


14 posted on 06/17/2016 8:03:33 AM PDT by Snowybear
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Mafia loan sharks may offer better terms. And they don’t use police to enforce collection.


17 posted on 06/17/2016 8:07:32 AM PDT by PAR35
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In the name of Almighty God and of ACTUAL compassion to the poor do I condemn your foolish and poorly-argued advocacy of the sons of vipers who prey on the desperate and offer a 'lifeline' in their time of need that becomes a noose. The stories of a solution turned slavery already posted here are but a handful of tens of thousands. Ladies and gentlemen, have we learned nothing from watching our own government's idea of fiscal solvency in action? The solution to not having enough money is not to borrow more money and especially not at ruinous usury!!!
19 posted on 06/17/2016 8:08:30 AM PDT by Laser_Ray (Another nifty idea)
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The interest rate is commensurate with the risk. The borrowers are in a bad spot because of their own bad choices.


20 posted on 06/17/2016 8:08:39 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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No they aren’t. They’re a trap. Maybe if they did reasonable fees, but they don’t. Their entire business model is to get you into the cycle, they don’t want you to be able to afford to pay off the loan, so you instead have to pay the rollover fee, week, after week, after week.


27 posted on 06/17/2016 8:18:37 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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Some lifeline - it helps those who make bad financial decisions to keep making them while getting deeper into debt.


30 posted on 06/17/2016 8:23:31 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Banks won’t touch these borrowers...so what’s a poor man to do?


33 posted on 06/17/2016 8:29:30 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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I suspect nearly all payday loan establishments began as money laundering houses for drug cartels. In Reno, most are staffed with Mexicans. Before these businesses began, they had to get appropriate laws passed in state legislatures in order to charge the extreme usury rates, meaning a lot of politicians were paid a lot of money under the table to get it done. The result became a flood of bankruptcies because once the poor utilize these businesses as a rope of last result, they find themselves hung by it.

Make all the snide remarks you want about how they should know better, once-upo-a-time in this country, usury would get a person tarred and feathered or shunned from their church and community. It is a very bad thing in the Bible to take advantage of the poor.


36 posted on 06/17/2016 8:43:24 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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A big part of the problem is the financial ignorance of most people. This stuff used to be taught in school and reinforced at home. Not anymore.

Another racket is the “Rent to Own” places where if you add up all the payments, you end up buying a $ 500 washing machine for $1100.


37 posted on 06/17/2016 8:46:35 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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I have mixed feelings on payday lenders. They are a lifeline for some folks who have a short-term need for an emergency but the folks taking these loans are not known for their financial prowess.

Also as someone who leans toward libertarian ans state’s rights, I think the Feds should stay out of it.

The CFPB is a terrible government agency. They are “self funding” meaning they use extortion to get lenders to settle on fines for perceived violations to fund their salaries. It is amazing how many “violations” they find to keep themselves in business.


38 posted on 06/17/2016 8:47:15 AM PDT by gunnut
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I fix the refrigerator myself.


43 posted on 06/17/2016 8:56:17 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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Major reason poor people are poor is a need for immediate gratification... In the short term payday lenders make things ‘easy’ - - in the long term they destroy lives. (And NO, most of this stuff is NOT medical emergencies or some other ‘nice’ sounding excuse.)
44 posted on 06/17/2016 8:56:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (When a Muslim terrorist shoots up a gay bar, itÂ’s not gun violence.ItÂ’s Islamic terrorism.Greenfie)
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