And this:
Antikythera Mechanism
Posted on 06/20/2016 6:11:57 AM PDT by xzins
And ALL that is why I became a multi-dimensional object.
(Thanks for the rebuttal. Good info.)
'Scientists' keep telling us that, but then I see the Pyramids and Vast Underground CIties built before the dawn of the 'Enlightenment'.
And this:
Antikythera Mechanism
“7Then theLord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.” Gen 2
A living being has an independent identity, in my view of things. In other words, the Great I Am here creates lesser beings but with each having it’s own sense of “I am”...a condition of “beinghood”. God is the ultimate, eternal “Being”.
Just my personal reflections triggered by your thoughts on “nous”, Sister Betty.
Absolutely. On my personal reflections, we humans are participations in ultimate, eternal Being, our source and our sustainer. Philosophers love to quibble about the distinction between "being" and "existence." "Life" encompasses both meanings. Yet to me, it's simple: All living creatures "exist" -- that is, are alive. Even the inanimate world can be said to "exist" in some sense.
Yet of all the creatures, man is the only one who "IS" uniquely in himself. Man possesses, not only soul, but nous, a gift of God. Via this means, he is capable of developing self-consciousness, which is the very basis of human reason and intelligence. It also guides the mortal course of the person, and makes him responsible for the choices he makes, which are ultimately subject to divine judgement.
This idea goes far, far back into the ancient world. As far as I know, Plato was the first to isolate and qualify nous, seeing it as having only two possible loci (for lack of a better word), divine and human.
Evidently, Plato believed God was perfectly unintelligible to the human mind. He is the God "Beyond," not only "beyond" the physical cosmos which he caused, but also utterly beyond human comprehension. In principle. But that doesn't mean divine-human communication is impossible. Indeed, it seems Socrates swore by it -- he "felt" the divine "pulls" and responded....
Funny thing is, Plato thought man was the eikon or "image" of the Cosmos. That is, he conceived the entire hierarchy of being was recapitulated in man himself, from the highest level, divine Nous, to human nous, to feeling/passion, through the biological, vegetative, and inorganic levels, finally bottoming out in the Apeiron, the fathomless Depth of all that "exists," out of which everything physical comes, and back into which everything physical goes in due course of time.
According to Anaximander, the Apeiron is the unlimited, indefinite, unbounded. It is the 'unlimited' source of all particular things. Because it transcends all limits, it is in principle undefinable.
So Plato's great hierarchy of Being puts the divine at the summit, and the divine at its base. Both these "poles" are unknowable by man directly. But man lives his life "in between" these two poles....
Notwithstanding the mythical quality here, flashes of the Second Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics always seem to come to my mind at this point.... But I digress.
I wanted to tell you where the great second-century A.D. philosopher Justin Martyr took the Platonic insights. He'd been an avid student of philosophy from his youth, had been through the different philosophical schools of the day, and found them wanting. Eventually, he found Plato's school, which was still going through successors. Then he found Christianity. It was Justin who first realized that Christ was not only the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophets, but He was also the fulfillment of classical philosophy.
Anyhoot, Justin Martyr would become the greatest evangelist of the Logos in the second century. He died a martyr for his faith. He has been sainted by the Roman Catholic Church, the Anglican Church, and the Eastern Orthodox Church.
In closing, there's a profound difference between Plato's cosmology and Christianity. In Plato, man is the complete image of the Cosmos. In Christianity, man is made in the image of God Himself. Which probably explains where he got his nous from.
Thank you so much for writing, dear Brother xzins!
Indeed, the great pyramids stagger the imagination. The Great Pyramid of Cheops reportedly dates back to c. 2560–2540 BC. HOW is was constructed is still a mystery. Presumably the tools of the time were pretty primitive. It obviously was a labor-intensive enterprise, likely from forced labor or slaves.
Yet according to some myths from ancient Mesopotamia, the pyramids were built by "extraterrestrials," who also "seeded" man on this planet in the beginning. These extra-cosmic beings were regarded as "the gods." Later, certain pharaohs conscripted the already-long-extant pyramids into service as their burial chambers.
Or at least that is one myth. In recent times, Erik von Danneken has revived it, in his book The Chariots of the Gods. Most people regard this as science fiction nowadays.
So I can't explain anything about the pyramids. I'm just amazed they're there, and have lasted so long. What I find even more astonishing is the Great Sphynx. It is said to be much older than the Great pyramids themselves. Unfortunately, it appears to be weathering alarmingly in recent times.
Assuming the pyramids and the Sphynx were fashioned by human hands, the pyramids are a totally amazing construction feat that testifies to the technical, organizational abilities of the human mind. The Sphynx is even more than that. It is a symbolization of the deep meaning of a form of ancient wisdom that is being captured for the ages in stone. It probably refers to a mystery cult of some kind.
Scientists don't deal in mystery cults, of course. Myth is not their cup of tea.
On the other hand, a student of culture and history will notice that human kind have been continually preoccupied with discerning meaning behind the brute facts of Nature since the beginning of human records. This seems to be a fact of human nature that does not change.
Again, more questions than answers!!!
Thanks for writing, UCANSEE2.
Back to the basic article, it seems to me that the Creator cannot be bound by the speed of light since it is a created thing. Therefore, it would seem to me that messengers of God also cannot be bound by the speed of light, since they are sent on their way by God, but are also created beings.
Therefore, I’m inclined to think that the speed of light might be a difficult barrier but not an impossible one.
Dear Brother xzins, I entirely agree with your assessment.
Don't let the tachyons get you down! We humans are mainly space and time bound in 4D. In that frame of reference, time has a maximum speed limit of C, the speed of light. It is expected, however, that tachyons move at a rate faster than C. In which case, it is probably not possible to observe them directly; for they operate in a time order outside of human awareness.
Then again, no one has ever "seen" a quark, though the existence of quarks is pretty much validated.
I guess the moral of the story might be some things cannot be seen directly, but only in their effects. (c.f. Romans 1:20)
In any case, God, the Creator of Time, cannot be subject to Time at all. God is timeless, eternal. The Creator utterly transcends that which He has created.
It seems to me the messengers of God have the ability to move at superluminal speeds. And not only that, but can instantaneously transport a human to a "different location" and then back again....
But I can't explain this.
Thanks for writing, dear Brother!
On a less lofty plain (plane?) than the Cosmos, I remember reading a biography of Julius Caesar a few years ago and that after everything quieted down in Alexandria, he and Cleopatra took a trip up the Nile and did the tourist thing that was thriving even then.
The thought that stuck me was that they were looking at something that was as far back in their past as I was to them.
The more things change.....
Great observation, eddie!
That admission proves you are more intelligent than , probably, 90% of the population.
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