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Ban on gay men giving blood 'discriminatory': Murray, Cantwell, other senators
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 6/20/16 | Joel Connelly

Posted on 06/20/2016 4:23:19 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

A partial federal ban on gay men donating blood is "discriminatory" and hurtful in that it turned away potential donors after the June 12 massacre that killed 49 men and women at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, 24 U.S. Senators said in a letter Monday.

Sens. Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., were among 23 Democrats and one Republican -- Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Illinois -- who signed the letter to U.S. Food and Drug Administration commissioner Dr. Robert Califf.

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"Yet, some of those most touched by this tragedy -- members of the LGBT community, who are especially eager to contribute to the response effort -- are finding themselves turned away."

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"Based on advances in science and blood screening and safety technology, we expect that the new, one-year deferral policy is just the first step toward ending discrimination against MSM (men who have sex with men) in our donor deferral policies," the senators wrote.

"A one-year deferral continues to perpetuate inaccurate stereotypes about an entire group of individuals, and remains a de facto lifetime ban for many healthy gay and bisexual men."

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 114th; bloodsupply; homosexualagenda; publichealth
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To: Faith Presses On

But there’s no demand for gay blood. People just aren’t buying it.


41 posted on 06/20/2016 5:09:57 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Kickass Conservative

Well, seriously, how do they find out?

Does the workers ask them point blank if they are gay?

What about Lesbians? I don’t think they have AIDs like homosexual men?

I’ve never given blood as I’m a type 1 diabetic on a constant insulin pump.


42 posted on 06/20/2016 5:13:26 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Fully accept and CELEBRATE gayness, or you are a homosexual mass murderer supporter.)
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To: CodeToad
Great point!
I guess you could also say banning a violent felon from buying a firearm is discriminatory too!
When these friggin libs make comments like this or offer up bills we need a Republican (who gets it) to respond with common sense statements like these. They should even offer up amendments so the dems can see how foolish they are.
43 posted on 06/20/2016 5:17:05 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: dsrtsage; MinuteGal

“Let gay men indiscriminately donate blood...as long as it is properly cataloged and used only for muslim patients”

And in addition, let gays donate blood that is only to be used for other gay patients, both male and female. Oh, and for liberal far left politicians too who advocate for the lifting of the ban.


44 posted on 06/20/2016 5:21:32 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS !!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I did? Well, if that’s how you took it. LOL

Do me a favor, if you have any questions regarding the veracity of my Posts, please ask me to clarify before jumping to conclusions.

If you noticed, I said that the person RECEIVING the Blood could simply approve of the Donor being Gay. After all, they are the ones that will have to deal with the consequences. Let’s call it “informed choice”.

That takes the Wind out of the Sails of those acting like Gays are being discriminated against. Well, it would if People have any common sense anyway.

Understand that the upset Liberals look upon the Donor as a Victim, not a person who may be receiving the Contaminated Blood. I was nearly one of those people.

Contracting Hepatitis C on top of already having CLL and MDS would not bode well for my Lifespan on this Earth.


45 posted on 06/20/2016 5:22:59 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Scandals were Brains, Hillary would be the smartest person on the Planet.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Let’em donate. Once they’re gone, flush it down the drain or how ever they would want to dispose of it.


46 posted on 06/20/2016 5:33:51 PM PDT by sjm_888
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To: Alas Babylon!

What the blood donation centers ask about is simply “men having sex with men.” There is a questionnaire that asks all sorts of questions that potentially bar someone from donating blood, either for a limited period of time, or indefinitely.

Men who have had any sexual contact with men whatsoever, including a single incident, since 1977 were “permanently deferred” from donating until last year. Now there is a one-year ban on “MSM,” as it’s abbreviated, during which time a man must be celibate.

There is no way for the blood donation centers to tell if someone is telling the truth or not, on any question that’s asked.

Bans on certain people donating (like those who have used intravenous drugs, and those who have paid to have sex) are to discourage people from even showing up at the blood donation center, and the questionnaires are to put up another layer of protection.

But an FDA report on this very issue says that over time, the number of “MSM” men who donate blood has been increasing. It was less than 1% of their male donors 20 years ago, and it’s now over 2%:

“A key finding of particular note was that MSM, who comprise approximately 7% (Ref. 26) of the U.S. male population, represented an estimated 2.6% of male blood donors. Although the data were determined by different methodologies, they suggest an increase in the proportion of blood donors reporting MSM behavior from 0.6% in 1993 and 1.2% in 1998.”

For more information from the FDA on this issue:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3440651/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3440453/posts


47 posted on 06/20/2016 5:34:24 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

Strictly speaking it is discriminatory. But so what?


48 posted on 06/20/2016 5:40:50 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Faith Presses On

I cannot believe there are people who cannot see the insanity in this. They are making decisions like this politically, not medically.


49 posted on 06/20/2016 5:44:37 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Tallguy

I wouldn’t say it is, in terms of the meaning of discriminatory as it’s commonly used today.

It’s no more discriminatory than not allowing blind people to drive cars.

And the secular humanist narrative on this issue is that all along the ban has been either discriminatory (the result of homophobia and “panic” over AIDS during the ‘80s), or it was medically necessary only when AIDS first surfaced, the medical field didn’t know anything about it, and there was no testing for it.

Almost every story I’ve seen on the issue in the past couple of weeks neglects to mention that thousands of people actually contracted AIDS through blood transfusions and died of it.


50 posted on 06/20/2016 5:48:01 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

Let’s make it mandatory that the FDA test with Democratic senators, administration department management and White House staff for a couple of years to see the overall effects before we expose the general public.


51 posted on 06/20/2016 5:49:55 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Mofia is a private crime family; whereas, the DOJ is the gov't's political crime family.)
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To: Engedi

Your husband is a great man for donating blood. I agree, type O negative is extremely rare. My GF is a nurse and they treat this type as a celebrity.


52 posted on 06/20/2016 5:51:54 PM PDT by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: rlmorel

I know. See the other article I posted tonight on this:

“Lifting U.S. curbs on gay blood donors seen years away: experts” -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3442123/posts

And these posts contain quotes from an FDA paper released last year that looked at the entire issue - statistics and studies, the available choices, and their shortcomings and likely consequences. The decision to keep a ban wasn’t discriminatory or political, but simply driven by the reality of “men who sex with other men” having much, much higher rates of HIV infection, and that if they were to donate in much greater numbers, the safety of the blood supply would decrease.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3440651/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3440453/posts


53 posted on 06/20/2016 5:56:24 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

That is even being discussed is astonishing. If a single life is sacrificed on this altar of homosexual advocacy and political correctness, the people responsible should be arrested for murder.


54 posted on 06/20/2016 6:07:31 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

Only the families of these politicians and they should use homo blood. That should be a 50 year study.


55 posted on 06/20/2016 6:16:52 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: rlmorel

From the news stories and liberal essays I’ve seen, the secular humanists believe that the infection rate through blood transfusion is so low - just three verified cases in a decade, though an FDA report says there were likely some not identified as such - that a slight increase in HIV infections wouldn’t be a big deal (the FDA says the number might quadruple). The “slight increase” is less important than not excluding men who have sex with men.


56 posted on 06/20/2016 6:23:45 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

Ladies first - that means you, Murray & Cantwell.

Otherwise, STFU


57 posted on 06/20/2016 6:31:23 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Faith Presses On; HarleyLady27; ResponseAbility; Kickass Conservative; DiogenesLamp; ...

As a regular blood donor, I have always wondered about that question related only to males. How come sodomy with females is never a problem? I admit I am clueless when it comes to medical issues, but with my vast understanding of medicine I would apply the question to sodomy with either sex. I sure wish someone would help my ignorance on this subject.


58 posted on 06/20/2016 6:44:54 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Kickass Conservative
Easier approach. Sign an affidavit that you are not gay and have not had sex with men. The penalty for perjury on the form is 10 years imprisonment. About the same exposure as lying on a Form 4473 to buy a firearm. Prosecute and incarcerate every liar without fail. Test the blood donation anyway to reduce the risk of giving the recipient an incurable disease.
59 posted on 06/20/2016 6:53:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Retain Mike

The FDA and medical field strongly differentiate between the two in terms of risk.

So much so that even women who have had sexually contact with a male who has had sexual contact with other men are deferred from donating blood for a year afterward, I believe.

The key issue likely is how being sexually active with someone is in a medical sense the same as being sexually active with everyone else that person has been sexually active with.

And this:

“Sex with an HIV-positive partner was associated with a 132-fold increase in risk (multivariable adjusted odds ratio) for being HIV-positive, and a history of male-to-male sexual contact was associated with a 62-fold increase in risk.

“By comparison, the increase in risk for a history of multiple sexual partners of the opposite sex in the last year was 2.3-fold.”

“As a group, in the United States, MSM have the highest HIV risk: according to CDC, two-thirds of new HIV infections occur in the approximately 2% of the population who are MSM (Ref. 27). The risk of HIV among MSM is more than twenty-fold higher than that of men who have sex with multiple female partners and women who have sex with multiple male partners (Ref. 32).”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3440651/posts

And the questions asked of blood donors:

http://www.aabb.org/tm/questionnaires/Documents/dhq/v2/DHQ%20v2.0.pdf


60 posted on 06/20/2016 6:55:42 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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