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Trolling for War with Russia
Townhall.com ^ | June 21, 2016 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 06/21/2016 8:47:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

Some 50 State Department officials have signed a memo calling on President Obama to launch air and missile strikes on the Damascus regime of Bashar Assad.

A "judicious use of stand-off and air weapons," they claim, "would undergird and drive a more focused and hard-nosed U.S.-led diplomatic process."

In brief, to strengthen the hand of our diplomats and show we mean business, we should start bombing and killing Syrian soldiers.

Yet Syria has not attacked us. And Congress has not declared war on Syria, or authorized an attack. Where do these State hawks think President Obama gets the authority to launch a war on Syria?

Does State consider the Constitution to be purely advisory when it grants Congress the sole power to declare war? Was not waging aggressive war the principal charge against the Nazis at Nuremberg?

If U.S. bombs and missiles rain down on Damascus, to the cheers of the C-Street Pattons, what do we do if Bashar Assad's allies Iran and Hezbollah retaliate with Benghazi-type attacks on U.S. diplomats across the Middle East? What do we do if Syrian missiles and Russian planes starting shooting down U.S. planes?

Go to war with Hezbollah, Iran and Russia?

Assume U.S. strikes break Syria's regime and Assad falls and flees. Who fills the power vacuum in Damascus, if not the most ruthless of the terrorist forces in that country, al-Nusra and ISIS?

Should ISIS reach Damascus first, and a slaughter of Alawites and Christians ensue, would we send an American army to save them?

According to CIA Director John Brennan, ISIS is spreading and coming to Europe and America. Does it make sense then that we would launch air and missile strikes against a Syrian regime and army that is today the last line of defense between ISIS and Damascus?

Does anyone think these things through?

Wherever, across the Middle East, we have plunged in to wage war -- Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria -- people continue to suffer and die, and we are ensnared.

Have we not fought enough wars in this Godforsaken region?

Last week, Russian planes launched air strikes on the rebels in Syria whom we have been arming and training to overthrow Assad.

Said John Kerry, "Russia needs to understand that our patience is not infinite." But why are we arming rebels to overthrow Assad?

Who rises if he falls? Moscow's alliance with Damascus goes back decades. Syria provides Russia with a naval base in the Mediterranean. Vladimir Putin's support for the embattled Syrian regime in the civil war being waged against it is legal under international law.

It is our policy that appears questionable.

Where did Obama get the right to arm and train rebels to dump over the Damascus regime? Did Congress authorize this insurrection? Or is this just another CIA-National Endowment for Democracy project?

Why are we trying to bring down Assad, anyhow?

U.S. foreign policy today seems unthinking, reactive, impulsive.

Last week, 31,000 NATO troops conducted exercises in Poland and the Baltic republics, right alongside the border with Russia.

For the first time since 1945, German tanks appeared in Poland.

Now we are planning to base four NATO battalions -- one U.S.-led, one British, one German, and perhaps one Canadian, as the French and Italians are balking at being part of a tripwire for war.

How would we react if 31,000 Russian, Chinese, Cuban, Iranian and North Korean troops conducted military exercises across from El Paso and Brownsville, Texas?

How would we react if each of those countries left behind a battalion of troops to prevent a repeat of General "Black Jack" Pershing's intervention in Mexico in 1916?

Americans would be apoplectic.

Nor are some Europeans enthusiastic about confronting Moscow.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier called the NATO exercises "warmongering" and "saber-rattling." He adds, "Anyone who believes that symbolic tank parades on the alliance's eastern border will increase security is wrong. We would be well-advised not to deliver any excuses for a new, old confrontation."

Not only is Steinmeier's Social Democratic Party leery of any new Cold War with Russia, so, too, is the German Left Party, and the anti-EU populist party Alternative for Germany, which wants closer ties to Russia and looser ties to the United States.

This month, we sent the USS Porter into the Black Sea. Why? Says Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, "to deter potential aggression."

While there is talk of a NATO Black Sea fleet, Bulgaria, one of the three NATO Black Sea nations, appears to want no part of it.

The European Union also just voted to extend sanctions on Russia for annexing Crimea and supporting separatists in Ukraine.

Donald Trump calls the NATO alliance a rip-off, a tripwire for World War III and "obsolete." Hillary Clinton compares Putin's actions in Ukraine to Hitler's actions in Germany in the early 1930s.

Looking for a four-year faceoff with a nuclear-armed Russia?

Hillary's the one!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: basharassad; patbuchanan; russia; statedepartment
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To: Tupelo

Very much inclined to agree.
“Avoid foreign entanglements” - advice from our founding fathers

RE: “I believe Pat Buchanan is once again right.
Looking back on our various foreign policies, I truly believe the United States has been on the wrong side of history for the past twenty plus years. Our Foreign Reactions have been even worse.
EVERY and I do mean every foreign adventure has created more problems than they have solved. If any were solved.”


21 posted on 06/21/2016 9:35:08 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Kaslin

Given the types of anti-aircraft batteries Russia has installed in Syria, I doubt this State Department sally will get very far.


22 posted on 06/21/2016 9:44:40 AM PDT by RAldrich
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To: Kaslin

I knew it wouldn’t be too long after I saw this. Having the first secular Constitution in the Middle East would just not work for the Islamist Obama administration.

http://www.fides.org/en/news/60256-ASIA_SYRIA_Assad_receives_the_Patriarch_and_six_Syrian_Catholic_Bishops_the_President_is_planning_a_totally_new_secular_Constitution#.V2lyZtIrJQK


23 posted on 06/21/2016 9:57:42 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: CMB_polarization

This is one case where we should be working with Russia.


24 posted on 06/21/2016 10:22:35 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Kaslin

Because all the good Generals have been retired or fired and only the drones are Left! DemoCRAPS the party of war!


25 posted on 06/21/2016 10:33:09 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Harpotoo

They have indeed and it is a shame


26 posted on 06/21/2016 10:38:19 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: winner3000

Hmm, this is interesting.


27 posted on 06/21/2016 10:41:35 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: CMB_polarization

Our leadership in DC is actually trying to contain ISIS, because they created trains and armed ISIS in the first place. And defeating Assad will only keep ISIS alive and manageable


28 posted on 06/21/2016 10:50:05 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Kaslin

War is good, my friend.

29 posted on 06/21/2016 10:51:45 AM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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To: CMB_polarization

Wonder what McCain and grahamnesty would say about this harebrained scheme?


30 posted on 06/21/2016 11:06:24 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Apparently, most people are fine with what Obama is doing, while he ignores our problems.)
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To: Kaslin
(Shiver) State Department officials urging air and missile strikes on Damascus? Sounds like something Sid Blumenthal conjured up....for his business interests.....as in Hillary and Obama's Libya venture. Hillary and Sid Blumenthal have given the State Dept and unprovoked bombings a b-a-d, b-a-d name.

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He as not even a US govt employee, but Sid Blumenthal had top secret inside govt info and was constantly in touch w/ Secy Hillry.

<><> For public consumption, Sid was touted as a Clinton Foundation hire---the factotum hired "to preserve Bill's presidential legacy" (cue laugh machine).

<><> Sid's emails show he had classified info almost verbatim (as confirmed by the NSA).

<><> Blumenthal was urging Hillary to bomb Libya b/c he had profit-making business interests predicated on a new Libyan govt.

<><> Sid also used scare tactics----that Obama would lose reelection if they didn't bomb Libya.

Hillary passed on this information to Obama.....did he know it came from a person he banned from govt employment?

31 posted on 06/22/2016 5:57:53 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Kaslin
(Shiver) State Department officials urging air and missile strikes on Damascus? Sounds like something Sid Blumenthal conjured up....for his business interests.....as in Hillary and Obama's Libya venture. Hillary and Sid Blumenthal have given the State Dept and unprovoked bombings a b-a-d, b-a-d name.

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He as not even a US govt employee, but Sid Blumenthal had top secret inside govt info and was constantly in touch w/ Secy Hillry.

<><> For public consumption, Sid was touted as a Clinton Foundation hire---the factotum hired "to preserve Bill's presidential legacy" (cue laugh machine).

<><> Sid's emails show he had classified info almost verbatim (as confirmed by the NSA).

<><> Blumenthal was urging Hillary to bomb Libya b/c he had profit-making business interests predicated on a new Libyan govt.

<><> Sid also used scare tactics----that Obama would lose reelection if they didn't bomb Libya.

Hillary passed on this information to Obama.....did he know it came from a person he banned from govt employment?

32 posted on 06/22/2016 5:57:54 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

33 posted on 06/22/2016 8:21:35 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: Kaslin

DECEMBER 2003 : (SYRIAN ACCOUNTABILITY ACT) According to the most recent Department of State Patterns of Global Terrorism Report: “[Syria] continued in 2001 to provide safe haven and logistics support to a number of terrorist groups.”
Among the terrorist groups named are Ahmad Jibrils Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC), the Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Abu Musa’s Fatah-the-Intifadah, George Habashs Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and HAMAS which continued to maintain offices in Damascus.
Syria is suspected of providing Hizballah, HAMAS, PFLP-GC, the PIJ, and other terrorist organizations refuge and basing privileges in Lebanons Bekaa Valley, under Syrian control.
United Nations Security Council Resolution 425 issued in 1978, called for the withdrawal of Israeli and Syrian troops from Lebanon.
Israel subsequently withdrew all of its armed forces from Lebanon in accordance with the resolution, as certified by the United Nations Secretary General.
Even in the face of this United Nations certification that acknowledged Israel’s full compliance with Resolution 425, more than 20,000 Syrian troops and security personnel occupy much of the sovereign territory of Lebanon.
Syria is accused of permitting attacks by Hizballah and other militant organizations on Israeli outposts at Shebaa Farms, under the false guise that it remains Lebanese land, and is also blamed for attacks on civilian targets in Israel.
Syria is also in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 520 issued in 1982 which calls for “strict respect of the sovereignty, territorial integrity, unity and political independence of Lebanon under the sole and exclusive authority of the Government of Lebanon through the Lebanese Army throughout Lebanon.”
As a result, the Israeli-Lebanese border and much of southern Lebanon is under the control of Hizballah which continues to attack Israeli positions, allows Iranian Revolutionary Guards and other militant groups to operate freely in the area, and maintains thousands of rockets along Israel’s northern border, destabilizing the entire region.
—— Syrian Accountability Act to Combat Terrorism, Talon News ^ | 12/18/03 | Jim Hauser


34 posted on 03/15/2017 1:58:12 AM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa

Speaking of Syrian-hosted “Jibrils Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)”...

This is the group that is in the US one of whose members organized the “Day Without Women” event...


35 posted on 03/15/2017 3:04:33 AM PDT by piasa
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