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A Born-Again Donald Trump? Believe It, Evangelical Leader Says
The New York Times ^ | 6/25/16 | TRIP GABRIEL and MICHAEL LUO

Posted on 06/25/2016 7:32:38 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

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To: 1rudeboy
They said that if I voted for Romney,...


I said, if I voted for Romney; I'd be giving approval for a man in the highest ranking position of our Country; the necessary means to spout his deceiving religion freely - with a fake aura of respectability.


Sorry folks; not on MY watch!

41 posted on 06/26/2016 2:39:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: longhorn too
... God Himself would be the only One knowing who was going to Heaven or hell! Has God let look into the “Book of Life”.


Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.
 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
 
 
 
Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
 
 
Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
 
 
 
Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
 
Revelation 21:27
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

42 posted on 06/26/2016 2:44:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: longhorn too

Is your name written there?


43 posted on 06/26/2016 2:45:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goldstategop

Obama did!


44 posted on 06/26/2016 2:56:32 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: longhorn too

He’s publically called for the defense of Christians being killed and persecuted in the middle East in a way that no other media or politician has. He does frequent though not necessarily overly publicized acts of kindness(such has helping that poor vet stuck in a Mexican jail or sending planes to help sick kids to hospitals). Old gruff, old womanizing Trump yet out of the blue he gets some word of someone needing help and he just does it. Dogs will get better treatment wandering into the white house grounds from Trump than what other occupants would do.


45 posted on 06/26/2016 3:11:37 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: D-fendr

God squares chaotic amoebae, not just circles.


46 posted on 06/26/2016 4:23:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: thinden
Ill take a baby christian any day over the muslim we have in there now

Hell - I'd take a moral atheist who believed in the Constitution....

47 posted on 06/26/2016 4:44:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Faith Presses On
For evangelicals, the heart of Christianity is a faith-based dependence on God. They often contrast this with what they characterize as merely “religion,” which they view as more rules and rituals-based.

That is actually an accurate characterization of what many evangelicals say.

Of course, that distinction is nowhere in the Bible.
48 posted on 06/26/2016 4:57:37 AM PDT by Hilda
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To: Faith Presses On
It's nice to see the N.Y. Times attempting to explain the difference between a relationship with the Lord and religion. :)

Yes it is refreshing. They stated the distinction in simplistic terms but it was fairly well done.

49 posted on 06/26/2016 5:04:31 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: trebb

I’m with you on this rebb.


50 posted on 06/26/2016 5:11:00 AM PDT by thinden
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To: metmom

Must be an accident, they got that part right. Belief in GOD and JESUS, is not a religion of rules, except that which GOD and JESUS laid down. Anything else is church dogma. Didn’t Paul and Peter go over that part enough that even a simple ‘baby’ Christian can understand it? The simple do not be unevenly yoked statement seems to go over the heads of most.


51 posted on 06/26/2016 6:02:52 AM PDT by GailA (A politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: goldstategop

Do ‘they’ make balls with holly and roll them, or make rings with holly and roll them? BTW, didn’t R Reagan profess to being a Christian? Do you even know what is required to be a Christian?


52 posted on 06/26/2016 7:58:47 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Guenevere

“I count Dobson, Graham, Falwell, Jeffress , etc as some of the finest, most Godly of men.”

Franklin Graham definitely. The others, not so much. Don’t know enough about Jeffress or Falwell Jr. Dobson, on the other hand, would not make my list. I know, Focus on the Family and all that, but he has said things and taken positions in the past that I couldn’t abide. I can’t remember what they were now. No need to dwell on them once I crossed him off my list.


53 posted on 06/26/2016 8:47:48 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Southnsoul

Thank you for your excellent post. That Trump was seen at David Jeremiah’s church is so so encouraging to hear. Thank you and your family for praying for Trump’s salvation and with you, I am believing that God has heard our prayers and is drawing Trump to Himself. He has certainly surrounded him with godly men who no doubt continuously pray for him. I love that the Lord is accomplishing His will on earth in His own way, through a man who does not fit our pious mold. This “small” tidbit from Dr. Dobson is the best news I have heard so far in this election. WOW Lord, and Amen and Amen!


54 posted on 06/26/2016 9:31:22 AM PDT by georgiegirl
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>>>”God squares chaotic amoebae, not just circles.”

No, a square circle, like a “married bachelor” is intrinsic nonsense, meaningless, having nothing to do with limits on God’s power.

“Meaningless combinations of words do not suddenly acquire meaning simply because we prefix to them two other words, ‘God can.’”


55 posted on 06/26/2016 10:07:29 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

I don’t see anything wrong or awkward with this picture.

I think your skepticism is coming from your image of Trump over the years, not being able to see him in other way. But you need to understand, just because someone has become a believer, doesn’t mean the evidence of that change is immediately recognized.

The Scriptures refer to new believers as “babes in Christ,” and are urged to “desire the sincere milk of the Word” so they may grow by it. The apostle Paul said mature Christians are those who eat the meat of the Word and are consistent in their doctrine and testimony.

If Mr. Trump has recently received Christ as Savior, you can’t expect him to suddenly “act evangelical” in every area of his life. The Holy Spirit has to be allowed to work in him as he yields and learns about his new faith. There is a growing process for every Christian, and many of them are still out of the will of God in areas of their life.

Just because you can’t see Donald Trump as an evangelical Christian, doesn’t mean he couldn’t be one. Remember, the believers in the book of Acts, could never have imagined that a man named, Saul, who persecuted them, hauled them to prison, and consented to their deaths, would become the greatest evangelist for Jesus Christ the world has ever known.


56 posted on 06/26/2016 10:29:24 AM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: georgiegirl

Thank you, Georgiegirl, it’s always such a blessing to hear from those who understand the ways of God.

I’m very excited about all of this, because of the fact that Mr. Trump humbled themselves to pray with the believer, (whoever he or she may be) is something that the Lord can honor and show him more grace, if he didn’t really get saved this time.

I love watching God work in the lives of people as we intercede and pray for them. After all, that’s what we believers are here for, to help people come to Christ.


57 posted on 06/26/2016 10:41:02 AM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Southnsoul

Can’t remember which thread I saw this link, but I am listening to it right now. I started listening with a grain of salt (propehetic word alert) but as I’m hearing more and more of it, can’t say I disagree with the brunt of it. Would love your input Southnsoul.

http://www.trunews.com/trunews-041816-mark-taylor-gods-man/


58 posted on 06/26/2016 11:20:19 AM PDT by georgiegirl
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To: Faith Presses On
“He used the word ‘hell’ four or five times,” he said. “He doesn’t know our language.”

So, evangelicals don't believe in hell?

59 posted on 06/26/2016 11:27:41 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: D-fendr

Of course God’s miracles are nonsense to you.


60 posted on 06/26/2016 11:28:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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