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Disregard the title of the piece..Jazz Shaw takes apart the ABC poll(and the Reuters poll) and the Wall Street Journal / NBC poll to show us why the first 2 are so far apart from the NBC poll. Even Mark Murray, NBC Political Editor, has a problem with the ABC poll:

Mark Murray ✔ @mmurraypolitics One difference b/w the NBC/WSJ and ABC/WaPo polls?

NBC/WSJ has party ID at D+4 advantage.

ABC/WaPo has party ID at D+12

1 posted on 06/26/2016 3:33:18 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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Carter has huge lead over Reagan. Dewey defeats Truman. Abe who?


3 posted on 06/26/2016 3:35:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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The sadder Hitlary does, the better the polling for her. The more that people agree with DJT, the worse he does.

Disconnect from the reality is going on here.


4 posted on 06/26/2016 3:36:30 PM PDT by Resettozero
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Yet another “junk survey.”


5 posted on 06/26/2016 3:36:52 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far.)
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Don’t trust the MSM with the news or polls.....you know what they want.


7 posted on 06/26/2016 3:39:28 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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Is Jazz Shaw that transgender teen on TLC??


8 posted on 06/26/2016 3:41:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Every time Obama & Hillary have a bad week (like last week's
setbacks from the Supreme Court and the Brexit vote) expect
another manufactured media poll showing how bad Trump is doing.
That seems to be the corrupt American media brainwashing scheme now.
11 posted on 06/26/2016 3:43:40 PM PDT by StormEye
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Maybe this is a flawed poll, maybe it isn’t, however, we should take nothing for granted. We need to approach this election under the premise that we will have to fight for every single vote right up until the last polling place closes on election night. Hillary and her minions will go all out, and so should we. When you see a poll like this one showing Hillary in the lead, don’t immediately dismiss it as a biased poll. When you see a poll showing Trump in the lead, don’t sit back and relax and assume he’s got it in the bag. Don’t assume Hillary will be indicted and forced to drop out of the race - Obama has already made it clear that’s not going to happen. The next time Hillary has a coughing spell, don’t assume she will drop out of the race for health reasons. The Clinton crime family and their friends in the media will do whatever it takes to put Hillary in the White House. We have to fight them as hard as we can every step of the way. It’s better to fight hard right up until election day, and find out afterwards that Trump won easily than it would be to take things for granted and realize later that we made a horrible miscalculation.


13 posted on 06/26/2016 3:45:16 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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Where is Hillary anyway? Seems based on these polls that her numbers get better the less she speaks.


14 posted on 06/26/2016 3:46:40 PM PDT by sarasota
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Doesn’t matter whether the people trust the MSM or not. If they pitch the story that Hillary is the front-runner by a large margin, Trump is in trouble.


15 posted on 06/26/2016 3:48:24 PM PDT by CatOwner
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I notice a misspelling of “millstone”


17 posted on 06/26/2016 3:49:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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The media love to stroke themselves with this sort of thing, but there’s only ONE poll that makes any difference at all, and that’s the election.


22 posted on 06/26/2016 4:11:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Good grief! Does anyone (not you, I'm referring to HotAir) read down below the first paragraph of a story?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-weathers-stormy-month-loses-only-2-points-versus-hillary-clinton-1466946000

"Mrs. Clinton’s lead fell to one point, at 39% to Mr. Trump’s 38%, when Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein are part of the mix. With both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump saddled with low approval ratings, voters seem to be looking for alternatives. Together, Mr. Johnson and Ms. Stein were the choice of 16% of those who took part in the survey."

The headline number is of the 2 way race. But it's not a 2-way race. It's a 4-way race, with the Greens and Libertarians. I doubt Johnson will win 10% in November but I'd be surprised if he doesn't do better than the 0.99% he won last time.

What I carry away from this is that at -1% Trump is doing amazingly well, considering the kind of week he had.

(If the Democrats are really 54% of voters now, I'm going to quit working and wait for all my free stuff to arrive.)

24 posted on 06/26/2016 4:15:04 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The Reagan-Carter contest was “too close to call” going into the 1980 Presidential election.


28 posted on 06/26/2016 4:21:56 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Really, are things so quiet that we are looking at polls in June.

They don’t matter until Labor Day.


33 posted on 06/26/2016 4:36:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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30% of the sample is Independent?

BS.

Most so-called independents are liberals who want to appear as intellectuals.

Therefore this poll is really sampled 2-1 libs over republicans.

Also, having maintaining in polling and survey validity and reliability, please consider the goals and agenda of those poll creators. If they don’t like the profile they hear on the phone then they hang up on them. Nowhere is the record of how the sample was formed? Number of phone calls? Number of dems who hung up on them? Number of Rs who hung up on them? Proof of one’s voting registration in the party they named? They handpicked their sample, shaped and massaged it to their liking...

The only poll I like is a Pole from Warsaw.


36 posted on 06/26/2016 4:47:17 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Evict the Establishment.)
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/26/clinton-gains-ground-over-trump-in-two-new-national-polls.html?intcmp=hpbt2

From Faux Non-news


38 posted on 06/26/2016 4:51:40 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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And brexit who vote remain, no doubt!


39 posted on 06/26/2016 4:54:05 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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when did bernie conceed??


40 posted on 06/26/2016 4:55:52 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Cooking the polls to camouflage the rampant voter fraud that can be expected in November.

It isn’t as obvious if the “polls” make us believe she’s the front runner. Political theater, graft, corruption, et. al.


41 posted on 06/26/2016 5:04:34 PM PDT by diplomatic_immunity
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We haven’t even gotten to the conventions yet.

Wake me up for the first poll after the last debate.


42 posted on 06/26/2016 5:37:52 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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