Posted on 07/04/2016 6:20:02 AM PDT by Enlightened1
They all realize that even if the end result is good piloting through is going to be a lot of hard word and none of them got into politics to works hard.
He should go to Hawaii first, and get born there. Then he could run for President, just like my friend Barack.
Listen to his speeches. He’s been fighting for 17 years. He’s been able to put everything in place. Now it’s time for others to execute his plan.
Yup. With his brains, business experience, character and resolve, he would make a fine PM. If I were a Brit, I’d campaign for him.
Yup. With his brains, business experience, character and resolve, he would make a fine PM. If I were a Brit, I’d campaign for him.
Yeah, something is weird for sure.
What is going on?
Perhaps they are receiving offers they can't refuse...Like offers to continue to live if they back down...
A lot of FReepers were saying Farage should "run for Prime Minister" after being victorious in BREXIT. I don't think they understand how a parliamentary political system (specifically the Westminster model) works. They don't have separation of powers like we have in the United States. The PM has to be a siting member of the UK parliament, and is elected by his peers that have the majority (or plurality) of seats in the House of Commons.
Farage is not a member of the House of Commons, and is thus ineligible to be Prime Minister. He couldn't be elected PM in the UK anymore than a 21 year old can be elected President of the United States. And even if Farage WAS a member of the House, the UKIP has about a total of about 3 seats in Parliament, and that's including the House of Lords. They wouldn't elect a PM whose party is in the extreme minority of government.
In theory, if Farage were to make a political comeback by running as a Conservative Party candidate for a vacant seat in the House of Commons, and then win that seat, he could then throw his hat into the ring for the party leadership post. If elected party leader, his election as PM would then be a simple formality since the Conservatives have the majority of seats. Good luck trying to convince then to elect a first term member as their leader, though.
One interesting thing is I've noticed the FReepers who scream the loudest about how "we are a REPUBLIC!!!!" don't actually understand the meaning of words like Republic, Democracy, Monarchy, Oligarchy, Parliamentary system, etc. You see the same thing on the left with the people who scream "Conservatives hate SCIENCE!!" the loudest (it turns out these lefties don't actually understand basic scientific facts like the differences between adult stem cells and embryonic stem cells)
Maybe he is trying to write a better ending than “Peter Pumkinhead” for himself?
No, his stepping down is a good thing in the long run for the UKIP Party.
Thank you for explaining the process.
I don’t think that when your country is in crisis is the time to step down, unless you are adding to the crisis.
These men seem more concerned about themselves or their goals (accomplishment as one said) then in the good of their country and countrymen.
The conservative leadership candidates are set, nominations are closed. Tory MPs will whittle the choices down to 2 and then party members will vote.
I’m not positive you have to be a sitting MP but that might be the case, all the candidates are and all the mentioned prospective candidates were as well. Farange would have had no chance regardless, switching parties and running for leader.
In Canada I know non-MPs have won leadership elections, they then have someone in a safe seat resign and enter Parliament in the following special election.
I think you read too much into things trying to make it out as if something sinister is connecting these events.
Cameron didn’t want this and he doesn’t want to deal with the difficult process of leaving and having that part of his legacy, so he’s quitting. An honorable thing to do.
Boris Johnson is a liberal opportunist who supported brexit to endear himself to the right, he expected it to fail, he chose not to run after it was clear he wouldn’t have the support to win after many former supporters realized he sucks or maybe they just used him and never intended to back him in the first place. In any case, it’s good news he won’t be PM.
Farage is not a member of Parliament, he’s a member of the European Parliament. There’s nothing he can do to be directly involved in the process of leaving, that will be the job of the goverment. I’m surprised by this but I take him at his word. He accomplished his goal and he’s done. I congratulate him, I didn’t this would succeed and it did, and it probably wouldn’t have without him laying the groundwork for years.
I don’t see how UKIP as a party has much of future, like the Prohibition party after they passed Prohibition. Perhaps he doesn’t see how either, I couldn’t say. But if they do they’ll figure it out without him, which is fine. No one should be the leader forever, new blood is a good thing.
- - - on the other hand . . .
I read this past day on FR, some thread on Farage, how this was a very smart move — and how he CAN RETURN.
I like what happened the other day at the Euro Parliment, some French or German a-hole decided to attack him for no reason and he gave a little speech and put those bastards in their place.
“Farage is not a member of Parliament, he’s a member of the European Parliament.”
You are correct. He was a MEP (member of European Parliament), was originally elected for South East England in the 1999 for European Parliament & re-elected in 2014.
He broke away from the Conservative Party in 1993 or maybe ‘92, and has been the leader of UKIP (UK Independence Party) since 2010.
Note: Being elected as an MEP is based on Universal Suffrage (i.e. citizens or eligible voters of all EU member states, not only British citizens).
You know my more recent thoughts about Nigel from a previous thread on FR. However, to be objective, perhaps it was also the right thing for him to do under the circumstances.
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