Posted on 07/08/2016 4:53:45 AM PDT by bobsunshine
...During the uploaded video narration Ms. Reynolds stated the police officer pulled them over for a broken tail light.
There are several aspects of the narrative as told that didn’t pass the sniff test, however, something about the “tail light” just didn’t seem to make sense. Especially when you consider it was daylight when they were pulled over; and where –in the aftermath media video– it can be noted the tail lights were operable.
Upon further evaluation of the entire set of circumstances, something is missing.
Was there another reason why the police officer would pull them over?
The shooting took place, late afternoon/early evening Wednesday July 6th. [ Remember that, and stay with me ].
The people at GotNews chased down the social media profiles of Diamond and Philando, and unfortunately a familiar set of social behaviors surfaces.
Yes, Philando Castile was a gang member (crips), frequently picturing himself with firearms, cash, drugs and gang signs; and Ms. Diamond also has a colorfully broadcasted social presence.
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
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Agreed; It just did not make sense that a guy with a CCW permit would get shot “supposedly” reaching for his wallet after telling the policeman he had a gun and a permit. When I went through my CCW training (taught by a police office) we were told the same thing, both hands on the wheel and comply with the officers instructions. The girlfriend says after he told the police he had a weapon and permit the policeman told him to get his license and registration and then shot him. I don’t buy it. Unfortunately, the media and libs have pounced on this without the facts just like the Micheal Brown deal.
Ditto your entire post, that is also my experience.
Obama’s sons have yet to learn that, and thus end up dead more than they would otherwise.
The flat tone and non emotion of the woman’s voice doesn’t seem right.
Because the story is completely wrong. A simple google search pulled up his “Criminal” record.
Vehicle Violations. Terrible guy here.... Driving without a seatbelt on. Broken muffler. Unable to produce insurance card. Driving on a suspended lisence.
Yep! Stuff like that. Never a felony arrest. Nothing with gangs.
The website pulled information from a Conspiracy website that post some of the most outlandish (and racist) stories. Some of them are hysterical due to how badly written they are. They seem to be similar to the National Inquirer but edgier.
Anyway, not a felon. Not a good driver either. But that is the worst of it. That is how he was able to have a Legal Carry Permit.
None of that is in the video just her saying that. Plus why would the passenger be told get license and registration?
Fifty-five traffic violations would qualify one as a scofflaw.
Did you notice the strong resemblance between the "victim" and the "perp"?
But, in this environment, no cop should be concerned when making a routine traffic stop - that would be racist.
Cops wrongly assume that CCW holders are a threat. License information produces a flag that informs the cop of CCW. My wife was pulled over 4 years ago and the first question the cop asked was, “Do you have your gun with you?” This is bad training. There has never been a single case of a CCW holder shooting a cop at a traffic stop... EVER. But they are not told the facts. Quite the contrary, they are told to be cautious, which leads to what we have today.
Cops don’t need to know. CCW holders are not and have never been a threat. They are mis-trained and misinformed because of political correctness.
What’s your point? Why can’t the gun be laying on the seat? CCW holders have NEVER BEEN A THREAT. The cop is completely at fault because of ignorance. Sorry, black people are allowed to carry too.
How do you KNOW he has a valid CCW? All you have is his “Girlfriends” word for that. The Sheriff of the county for that area has already said no application under Castiles name was ever submitted and no application was ever approved. After Ferguson & Trayvon & all the others I am continually amazed at how many people buy into the first narrative. THEY have a playbook. They cue it up every time. It’s always false & misleading. Lies make the front page, corrections are on A28 days or weeks later. It is much more likely that this guy did not have a valid CCW. There are videos of him and Lavish smoking weed, hot boxing the car with a kid in the back seat. He was driving around w/o a license, high, illegally carrying a concealed weapon, possessing drugs, all with a kid in the back seat. Highly doubtful he is a responsible gun owner who takes seriously gun ownership and concealed carry. If it looks like a thug, walks talks and acts like a thug, it’s most likely a thug.
(Ever heard the term “scofflaw”?)
I will give you that. He is a terrible driver. My point was all the talk of him being a felon. Which is not true.
(Did you notice the strong resemblance between the “victim” and the “perp”?)
There is a resemblance. We may never know if he was the person in the store or not. The robbery and the shooting are two different things at this point.
(But, in this environment, no cop should be concerned when making a routine traffic stop - that would be racist.)
The cop jumped the gun a little bit... >s
If the cop had been wearing a body cam we would know for sure exactly what happened.
It does look like from preliminary evidence (I use the term evidence very loosely) that the cop fired his gun prematurely. Perhaps he had good reason and perhaps he didn't, I hope if he had good reason that cops get this information out quickly. If he didn't have a good reason and this guy was really a stand up guy it is horrible that he should be shot complying with officers commands. If the cops made a mistake they need to own it, admit the mistake and do what they can to restore peace. If it was a mistake the cop needs some punishment, I have a gun if I use it wrongly you better believe I would have to pay big time.
I carry, legally. I would never reach into any pocket with a cop beside me. They know I carry even before I tell them. I don't want to give them an excuse. If they want my gun I tell them where it is with my hands as far away from it as possible. If they want it they can get it.
Cops are ordinary people, a necessary evil in society. We don't like cops until we need them. They truly do on occasion have to make very difficult decisions, it is a wonder they don't make more bad decisions. I don't think most ever want to kill anybody but they do have an obsession with getting home safely.
All that said, I have doubts that the officer asked for license, he was not the driver. He may have wanted to see identification to make sure he was who he said however since there had been a recent robbery and he fit the description of the perp. Just because someone fits a description however is not a reason to shoot.
I really hope it turns out that the dead guy was a bad guy but I don't believe it will turn out that way from the information we have so far.
If the cop had been wearing a body cam we would know for sure exactly what happened.
It does look like from preliminary evidence (I use the term evidence very loosely) that the cop fired his gun prematurely. Perhaps he had good reason and perhaps he didn't, I hope if he had good reason that cops get this information out quickly. If he didn't have a good reason and this guy was really a stand up guy it is horrible that he should be shot complying with officers commands. If the cops made a mistake they need to own it, admit the mistake and do what they can to restore peace. If it was a mistake the cop needs some punishment, I have a gun if I use it wrongly you better believe I would have to pay big time.
I carry, legally. I would never reach into any pocket with a cop beside me. They know I carry even before I tell them. I don't want to give them an excuse. If they want my gun I tell them where it is with my hands as far away from it as possible. If they want it they can get it.
Cops are ordinary people, a necessary evil in society. We don't like cops until we need them. They truly do on occasion have to make very difficult decisions, it is a wonder they don't make more bad decisions. I don't think most ever want to kill anybody but they do have an obsession with getting home safely.
All that said, I have doubts that the officer asked for license, he was not the driver. He may have wanted to see identification to make sure he was who he said however since there had been a recent robbery and he fit the description of the perp. Just because someone fits a description however is not a reason to shoot.
I really hope it turns out that the dead guy was a bad guy but I don't believe it will turn out that way from the information we have so far.
He was the driver, but it still doesn’t add up. The gun was in his lap, if her boyfriend did tell the police office he had a gun and a permit and the gun was in his lap the policeman would not have told him to get his license out of his pocket.
“With a four year old in the car?”
Was it his kid, or just hers?
Sounds like you have already made up your mind. Do you have evidence he had a CCW? Do you have evidence to suggest that he wasn't reaching for the pistol by his right hand? Do you have any evidence to suggest I ever implied blacks should not be allowed to carry? Why don't you try sticking to the facts?
I suspect we're going to learn that he did not have a concealed carry permit.
The girlfriend was in the drivers seat.
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