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To: MtnClimber

I read article, watched video, and read 30-40 comments, and find I disagree with a lot of it, given a BAD experience years ago in IN. It was likely the seasoned cop / novice scenario mentioned in video.

I do keep my hands on the wheel, have DL + ins/reg in hand, and answer questions calmly (!) & matter of factly. I do not in any way want to be perceived as a threat. I had opportunity to do this recently (ahem) with no problem, incl no ticket.

I asked this question at a 2a forum. I was told - by the officer who did it - that he had broken a gun down and given it back in pieces from to someone for “smarting off”. Another officer present disagreed with that handling, but I could tell - I realized then that in a competent-decent cop vs less-competent hothead cop scenario, the hothead would win over his partner.


139 posted on 07/11/2016 6:34:31 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: cyn
I realized then that in a competent-decent cop vs less-competent hothead cop scenario, the hothead would win over his partner.

The majority of police are great, but they have a groupthink problem that is weakening their credibility in certain segments of the population, including many whites.

When a bad cop is in their midst, they cover for them like a 'brother' instead of flushing them out. I've seen it close up as I have a few police in my family and and worked with many in a professional capacity. They have a strong bond with each other due to the daily risks that they are all exposed to.

140 posted on 07/11/2016 6:55:44 AM PDT by bankwalker (Does a fish know that it's wet?)
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To: cyn

A lady in my building told me of her experience pulled over by a cop in - was it VA? or OH? - anyway, she was respectful, as was the cop. I don’t recall all the minutiae of their conversation, but as she handed over the gun at his request, he checked & opined that it was better to carry with a round in the pipe. Or it was some other be-ready-to-shoot-at-a-moment’s notice bit of wisdom, meant to contradict her carrying condition.

Minutes later when he returned to hand back her license + citation + handgun, the jerk gave back the weapon in pieces. I guess he was only *so* committed to life-saving defense for a road-tripping female.

That said, I’ve only handled interactions w/ LEOs in a respectful manner. (Had a bit of a lead foot in my younger days. Now I leave myself more time to get to work.) Hands or wrists on the wheel, fingers pulling out license/registration or visibly fumbling at it. I’m harmless to you, Mr. Leo.

Most have been professional & polite, tho there’s been the occasional snarky bastard. I quietly endure the tongue-lashing from the self-righteous jerks, accepting that it usually is the price they exact for not writing up a ticket that would later affect my insurance. *shrug* I’m a self-serving coward, but my premiums are low. ;o)

P.S. Back in the 90s, my car broke down on the hwy as I was trying to get home from work. Cop who called me a wrecker invited me to take refuge in his car. Was already sitting there before I remembered the little pistol at the small of my back. Kept damn mouth shut. Survived the night. Disagree w/ obligation to inform. My state requires it. I took the class but couldn’t make myself go thru w/ registering w/ the state for the ‘legal’ right to defend my person. So while I might carry Constitutionally upon occasion, I’m technically breaking the law.


141 posted on 07/12/2016 1:25:51 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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