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Liberals Claim Profiling Is Unconstitutional. It’s Not, And It’s Saving Lives.
Independent Journal ^ | John Cardillo

Posted on 07/17/2016 6:55:55 PM PDT by Hojczyk

At its core were the two key elements despised by liberals, but proven effective by decades of successful arrests and convictions. Profiling and monitoring.

“But that’s unconstitutional!” liberals scream.

But it isn’t.

The development of criminal intelligence using sources and informants has been upheld time and again by the courts. And profiling was never an issue until it applied to Muslims.

Italian cops and agents, working in Italian neighborhoods while cultivating Italian confidential informants were used successfully for decades against La Cosa Nostra. The Mafia. No one cared, least of all the law abiding, hardworking, Italian Americans who wanted the criminal element rooted from their communities.

Yet when the same proven and constitutional methods were applied to Muslims, liberals and Muslims themselves cried foul. But why? Why wouldn’t Muslims want the worst among them rooted out and brought to justice?

That is a question I have been asking since Wednesday, September 12th, 2001, and I still haven’t gotten an answer.

So how does the profiling and monitoring of mosques and Muslim communities work? How does an investigator find a CI?

It is actually a pretty straightforward process. I called on a close friend of mine, a retired NYPD Intelligence Division Detective who worked with the informants to explain how he cultivated and maintained informants.

“Beginning in 2002, we (NYPD Intelligence Division) would look through daily arrest logs for people from Muslim or Middle Eastern countries, then go down to central booking and interview them.

Their offenses were irrelevant to us. All that mattered was where they were from. In fact, one of my best informants who I ran for ten years was initially arrested on a minor domestic violence charge.

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1 posted on 07/17/2016 6:55:55 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Isn’t “If you see something, say something, “ profiling. My God, what is happening to this country?


2 posted on 07/17/2016 6:58:06 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: Hojczyk

Embracing Islamists is “who we are” these days.


3 posted on 07/17/2016 6:58:38 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: Hojczyk

Liberals are liars. It is all they can do.


4 posted on 07/17/2016 6:59:07 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Hojczyk

Two things we need:

1) When Congress passes a new law — demand they point to the paragraph in the Constitution that allows that action.

2) When someone claims something is “unconstitutional” — demand they point to the paragraph in the Constitution that forbids that action.


5 posted on 07/17/2016 7:00:04 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Hojczyk

Liberals claim all sorts of things are unconstitutional whether they are, or not mainly because most of them haven’t a clue what the constitution is, or is about as they’ve never read it.

To a Liberal the constitution is what they feel it is, or should be in their perspective.


6 posted on 07/17/2016 7:01:47 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Hojczyk

Precisely


7 posted on 07/17/2016 7:02:29 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Hojczyk

I profile people. I was made that way. Anyone with common sense does.


8 posted on 07/17/2016 7:06:20 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: Hojczyk

“There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”

— George Orwell


9 posted on 07/17/2016 7:06:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Hojczyk

How can libs call profiling racist??? As soon as they learn I’m conservative, they call me racist or a homophobe!


10 posted on 07/17/2016 7:13:10 PM PDT by llevrok (Lies are born the moment someone thinks the truth is dangerous.)
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To: Sasparilla

Three Liberal Presidents from Carter to zero and you have a country you do not recognize. If one searched/profiled Muslims back in 1990 there would never have been any WTC events. These Muslims and blacks killing cops has to STOP.


11 posted on 07/17/2016 7:15:16 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Hojczyk

We can’t profile Muslims even though 99.9999999% of terrorists are Muslims. When a black person is murdered, there is a 95% chance that it was by another black, but the police are prohibited from looking for a black. The majority of Mexican-looking people are here illegally, but we can’t look for Mexicans.

It’s stupidity and/or insanity.


12 posted on 07/17/2016 7:17:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Hojczyk

Today, profiling. Yesterday, connecting the dots/investigative policing.


13 posted on 07/17/2016 7:19:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hojczyk

Can they point out the text in the Constitution that says profiling is illegal? I didn’t think so.


14 posted on 07/17/2016 7:27:09 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Secret Agent Man

We had an effective strike force program for years which targeted individuals. Kind of show me the criminal and I will find a crime approach. No one complained because the mafia was not a protected minority.


15 posted on 07/17/2016 7:33:45 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Hojczyk

Bookmarked.


16 posted on 07/17/2016 7:44:21 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Sasparilla

A key difference is that a private citizen is initiating the contact; the cops themselves aren’t “profiling”, a nameless, faceless caller is - so the police can at least defend the initial contact with potential perps.

Here in NJ there was a debate about “racial profiling” that was dishonest from the start; cops weren’t targeting black motorists because they were black, but they were specifically were targeting motorists with southern states’ license plates and no visible luggage (intercepting drugs and guns coming north on I-95). In the process they even stopped a member of the Japanese Red Army from entering the Lincoln Tunnel to NYC with a bomb in his car. When they were castigated for their methods, they quickly “stood down” to appease blacks - and the mayors of the black cities in northeastern NJ reported immediate spikes in drug- & gun-related crimes (which has continued unabated for years since).

Those cities contribute to law enforcement efforts anyway; let them kill each other. Law enforcement in NJ today is basically centered on keeping the worst criminal elements from spilling out of those welfare reservations; they basically function like NYC in “Escape From New York” now.


17 posted on 07/17/2016 7:53:56 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Hojczyk
Why wouldn’t Muslims want the worst among them rooted out and brought to justice?

Very good question.

18 posted on 07/17/2016 7:57:55 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("And, if you're not queen, my dear, think you that you're wronged?)
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To: Hojczyk
"Liberals Claim Profiling Is Unconstitutional."

Profiling is one of their primary tools of culture manipulation. To say it is unconstitutional is irrelevant because they only subscribe to those parts of the Constitution that favors their cause.
19 posted on 07/17/2016 7:59:12 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: llevrok
They won't be satisfied until the officer is required to actually see the crime with their own eyes. Even then the question will be asked, why were you looking at Mr.Caught-in-the-act instead of the 100's of other people in the area. Was it because he is _________?

Intimidation, Look the other way when you see us or your career and credibility will be destroyed. Now it's a threat to their lives.....

These attacks and murders of Police Officers had nothing to do with the issue being addressed risks erasing gain made in civil rights and race relations made before Obama was elected.. This is counter productive to their cause and overshadows their message and it's the worst possible time to shoot themselves in the foot.

This will send more democratic voters to the poll than Hillary can afford. Just remember this phrase

"I didn't leave the democrat party, it left me".
20 posted on 07/17/2016 8:01:50 PM PDT by jmclemore (Go Trump)
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