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Ted Cruz rules out voting for Hillary Clinton
Politico ^ | July 21, 2016 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 07/21/2016 6:38:54 AM PDT by McGruff

Ted Cruz will not vote for Hillary Clinton, he said at a Texas delegation briefing Thursday morning, but said that he was not ready to back Donald Trump.

Cruz walked the Texas delegation through his thinking in giving Wednesday's speech, saying that he had given the Trump campaign ample heads up that he was not planning to endorse the Republican Party nominee, and that they had spoken three days ago, when the Texas senator made clear that an endorsement would not be coming.

But he did not rule out an endorsement in the future.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016rncconvention; clinton; cruz; cruzbooed; hillary; lyinted
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To: I_Publius

Tell you what, if we are to judge someone by their family, then Trump is two thumbs up. His family seems wonderful!


81 posted on 07/21/2016 7:31:11 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: McGruff

>>>> Ted Cruz rules out voting for Hillary Clinton

Of course not. There is only one person Cruz will vote for. Yes, himself.

“Me me me, I I I, mine, my, .......”

Never thought I would say this ever - there are a lot of similarity between Cruz and Obama.


82 posted on 07/21/2016 7:31:46 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: NorthMountain

It’s true.


83 posted on 07/21/2016 7:37:05 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

It’s sophomoric blather.


84 posted on 07/21/2016 7:37:46 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain

Read this article.

http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Stolyarov/Honesty_versus_Brutal_Frankness.shtml


85 posted on 07/21/2016 7:38:21 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Why?


86 posted on 07/21/2016 7:39:40 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain

Because it explains why a non-choice is still a choice.


87 posted on 07/21/2016 7:40:53 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Fantasywriter

Cruz himself engaged in ruthless campaign tactics and it was his cohorts who started the mess with Trump’s wife and he hit back.

Cruz was his own worst enemy and let his arrogance, relentless ambition, as well as his own delusional thinking he was the anointed one destroy himself and his campaign.

I have told people all along that Trump was basically a New York Street Fighter, he played b y his own rules and destroyed whoever got in his way. If you started it he finished it.

Politics is very much a contact and blood sport, Cruz got beat and that is the end of the story.

Was Cruz bitter, sure he was but it was more than that and it showed last night in spades. He committed political suicide last night and Trump let him do it.

Cruz is and was the master of his own delusional ship of misery and incompetence. While Cruz is very smart he lacks common sense and political common sense at that.

2018 will be interesting for Cruz in Texas, the knives and candidates for his seat will be out in force. His career may be over for the moment, if not forever.


88 posted on 07/21/2016 7:41:03 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: McGruff

Hey Ted, there’s always Jill Stein.

Or, you can write in your own name.


89 posted on 07/21/2016 7:43:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: dynoman
I'll be nice to you, here.

I'll explain what abstaining from voting really means. And it won't take two pages of verbiage:

A non-vote is a non vote. That is all. This "non-vote = vote for the other guy" meme is, was, and always will be stupid and false. Abstention from voting adds nothing to anybody's vote total. What it means is that the abstainer sees no meaningful difference between the available (viable) candidates, and dislikes them both.

There ya go.

90 posted on 07/21/2016 7:45:25 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: Genoa

“But Ted, nobody cares who you are going to vote for. Really. It’s not an issue. You’re just not that important.”

Based on the 4 or 5 threads a day, each with hundreds of petulant replies, apparently he is.


91 posted on 07/21/2016 7:49:38 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: McGruff

I used to think that Ted Cruz was a very smart guy. Now? Not so much.

Cruz, in his speech last night and in today’s speech/Q&A in front of the Texas delegation, said that he set a standard for his endorsement of a President - that the person in question would defend the Constitution and defend our liberties. There is nothing is wrong with that, and it is what I want to always hear from ANY candidate for office...in an absolute vacuum. But we don’t live in a vacuum. Right now, there is a binary choice between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump - one of them will (barring a severe health problem, death or civil war touched off by Obama trying to cancel the election) be the next POTUS. There is no other choice - the primaries are OVER, we no longer have the ability to choose THE perfect candidate...now it is about stopping whomever we DISlike the most.

Cruz did recognize that simple fact in 2012 - he endorsed Mitt Romney, hardly a doctrinaire conservative and defender of the Constitution (just look at his stance on the 2nd Amendment, as just one example among many). Here’s the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2012#U.S._Senators Cruz is listed under the category of “State, Local and Territory Officials.”

Further, Cruz indicated that the Tea Party (a group founded explicitly by conservatives who value the Constitution and felt betrayed by the typical politicians running things in DC) would likely endorse Romney, with the following quote: “Conservatives will stand united in November. The stakes are too high,” Cruz said. “The Tea Party will show up en masse to support Mitt Romney.” Source: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/ted-cruz-newsmaker-gop-convention-texas-senate/1#.V5DWsLuAOko

So what is different in 2016? Why would Cruz endorse Romney, no stalwart defender of the Constitution and our liberties, against Obama - the diametric opposite of a stalwart defender of the Consitution and our liberties? Well, because it makes sense to have done so. He recognized THEN, a mere 4 years ago, that we faced a binary choice - it would be either Romney or Obama, and “Conservatives will stand united in November. The stakes are too high.” THAT was a sensible, logical and good decision. But this election is really no different - Trump may (emphasis on “MAY”) not be the perfect defender of the Constitution and our liberties, but we as a nation face a binary choice between him and Hillary Clinton - who is a political carbon-copy of Obama, being the nearly perfect ANTI-defender of the Constitution and our liberties. Why is Cruz not endorsing Trump against Clinton, when he endorsed Romney against Obama?

The answer is simple: He’s got an ego the size of an aircraft carrier, and it is interfering with Cruz’ logic function. He’s butthurt, badly, and simply cannot rise above his own personal feelings and do what is best for this country, and fight with every fiber of his being against Clinton. That is sad and incredibly disappointing - because outside of this Presidential election season, I have been a genuine admirer of Cruz and what he has stood for (well, I’m not thrilled about his trade votes, but no one is perfect). Now I can’t be. Now he looks small, like most politicians. He looks and sounds like a walking, talking ego. THAT is not principle, that is not high-minded, that is not serving the public and defending the Constitution.

You know, not that long ago we had a Presidential election that was decided by 538 popular votes in a single state. Cruz knows that, particularly since he worked his tail off to help preserve George W. Bush’s victory (oh, and BTW, Bush was hardly the perfect defender of the Constitution that Cruz pretends to want as a candidate - but he was head and shoulders above Al Gore). He also knows that such a circumstance could happen again, and that he has a pretty large and very loyal following. He knows that many among this loyal following of his will not vote for Trump unless he gives a full-throated endorsement of Trump. So what Cruz is doing is putting this country at risk of losing a very close election, should we be in that scenario again. All because of his ego.

Unless this is some strategy cooked up between Trump and Cruz to have Cruz go through all of these machinations and then later come out with a full-throated endorsement (which I don’t think is likely), I’m done with Cruz as a possible POTUS - forever! I’ll wait and see if anyone tries to primary him in 2018, and evaluate that person (and, NO, I won’t be voting for a David Dewhurst/John Cornyn kind of candidate). Before last night, I would have reflexively voted for Cruz, but not now, not after that performance. The time for personal feelings is OVER, the time to look for a perfect or near perfect candidate is over. Now is the time to unite behind the better candidate - and Donald J. Trump is the better candidate, and will be the better POTUS, by every single measure that is important. Cruz has utterly failed to understand and implement this idea by endorsing Trump, and I cannot forgive him - because “the stakes are too high” - YOUR words, Senator Cruz, not mine.


92 posted on 07/21/2016 7:50:18 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: NorthMountain

No band came up with that statement ; Jean-Paul Sartre did.

Now please explain how deciding not to decide falls short of making a choice.


93 posted on 07/21/2016 7:51:02 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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You do mean AFTER the Cruz PAC ad, FIRST ran the nasty against Melania Trump, right? Cruz stupidly stayed mute.

You do realize Trump hit back hard for that reason, don’t you? Cruz failed to denounce the derogatory PAC ad against Melania, choosing to ignore it, as if it never happened.

Then the snake Cruz acts like TRUMP hit Goldman-Heidi out of the blue and for no reason. You buying that? LOL!

Only the Cult of Cruz bought that lie.

TRUMP hits back twice as hard, and admits to it. Cruz knew or should have known it was going to be coming back at him, and Heidi would get the same hit, twice as hard.

I knew it was coming. If I knew, Cruz should have known. Ted should have denounced his PAC ad against Melania. TRUMP is gracious and might have held back a degree on Heidi.

Cruz owns that whole friggin flap. Only his groupies seem to ignore the obvious and are willing to advance his lies.


94 posted on 07/21/2016 7:53:20 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christ Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxmsists coming, infinitum.)
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To: shortstop

Yesterday I heard something that is, on its face, funny - but in reality it is very disappointing.

“Why do people in Washington, DC immediately dislike Ted Cruz? Because it saves time.”

Truly, that is sad. He’s usually an extraordinarily bright guy, almost always the sharpest knife in the drawer, but not this election season, and certainly not last night. He could have been so much more - but he just destroyed any hope of ever rising higher.


95 posted on 07/21/2016 7:53:32 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Kandy Atz
Based on the 4 or 5 threads a day, each with hundreds of petulant replies, apparently he is.

Let us have our fun. It's like playing with the troll before the zot strikes.


96 posted on 07/21/2016 7:54:54 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Ancesthntr

I almost get the impression that his wife is really pulling the strings.


97 posted on 07/21/2016 7:56:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Captain Peter Blood

That was a stellar summation. I have noticed that the people who whine loudest about Trump retweeting a pic of Cruz’ wife have zero to say about the prior and far worse action of the Cruz camp. Cruz campaign manager Jeff Roe bought the rights to a nude Melania pic, shot years before she was Mrs. Trump, and gave the pic to Ted’s Super Pac(isn’t that illegal?). The Pac ran a vile, nasty ad, and Cruz NEVER condemned it.


98 posted on 07/21/2016 7:56:33 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: SirLurkedalot

sooo.... I’m curious.
If it was to vote between Cruz and a HRC clone, who would you vote for?


99 posted on 07/21/2016 8:03:14 AM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

You’re so right. Going for damage control in front of hundreds. After going for DAMAGE before MILLIONS.


100 posted on 07/21/2016 8:06:05 AM PDT by StAntKnee ( Add your own danged sarc tag)
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