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The Blue Angels Are Getting a Super Upgrade
Popular Mechanics ^ | Jul 28, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami Jul 28, 2016

Posted on 07/29/2016 6:20:24 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Boeing scored a $12 million dollar contract to transition the U.S. Navy's Blue Angels flight demonstration squadron to newer jets. The Blue Angels, who have been flying the F/A-18 Hornet since 1986, are moving up to the bigger F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.

The Blue Angels currently fly a mixed bag of older Hornet fighters. They've got three of the oldest F/A-18A model, 10 of the newer -C models, and three two-seater models. The -A and -C models are all 20 to 30 years old. The Angels typically fly Hornets that are very much still functional, but too old to keep operating from aircraft carriers. The Blues' own website says their jets arrive from the fleet "at the end of their carrier arrest functionality".

According to AirShow News, the conversion to the Super Hornet should be complete by September 2017. It takes a bit because Jets bound for the Blue Angels have their 20-millimeter nose cannons removed and replaced with a smoke-fluid system for laying smoke trails during an air show. The planes also have a fuel pump inverted, a stop watch and adjustable constant-tension stick spring installed, and entire aircraft painted in the iconic blue and gold paint job.

The Blues have stated in the past they would rather stick with the older planes. The website used to state: "While the Super Hornet has more recent technology, the Hornet is more suitable to the needs of the current team due to its light weight and slick maneuverability." But older Hornets are getting tricky to maintain in the field. A combination of aging airframes that need more TLC, difficulty finding parts that are no longer manufactured, and budget cuts have left Navy and Marine Corps Hornet squadrons struggling. For example, as of April, only 87 of the Mariner Corps' fleet of 276 Hornets were in flyable condition.

In addition, the carrier version of the F-35 is nearly three years from entering active service. As a result, the Navy may feel it have no choice but to migrate to the newer planes.

While the Blue Angels may have preferred the Hornet over the Super Hornet, they'll adapt to the new platform. The team has flown jets with less power, like the A-4 Skyhawk, as well as planes that are bigger and less maneuverable, like the F-4 Phantom. Moving from an older to a newer Hornet is easier than moving to a totally new aircraft, and spare parts will be easier to source, too.

The team's September 2017 schedule is just a little bit light compared to other months, with June being another light month. Could October see an all-new fleet of planes gracing air shows nationwide?

Via AirShow News


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; blueangels; navair; superhornet; usn
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To: Romulus
They are not asked for the opportunity to fly for the Blue Angels, they apply for the position completely voluntarily.
21 posted on 07/29/2016 7:24:18 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
For example, as of April, only 87 of the Mariner Corps' fleet of 276 Hornets were in flyable condition.

Looks like they changed the name of by beloved Corps after I retired...

22 posted on 07/29/2016 7:24:50 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Any lower and he’s gonna have to put his gear down.


23 posted on 07/29/2016 7:27:05 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: PLMerite

IMO, it’s not a Navy Hornet unless it’s sporting that deployed tail hook......... :0)


24 posted on 07/29/2016 7:29:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

25 posted on 07/29/2016 7:31:08 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Gaffer

They have the hook. The RAAF Hornets have the hook. I've never seen a hookless Hornet. Same with the F-4, BTW. Everybody's Phantoms had tailhooks.

26 posted on 07/29/2016 7:33:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain

But they gotta flyby with it draggin on the closeup! Crowd pleaser....


27 posted on 07/29/2016 7:35:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: New Perspective

I assume everything is political about the military under this administration, especially with other units woefully under-supported, and per another post here, much fewer combat-ready aircraft.


28 posted on 07/29/2016 7:37:59 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Gaffer
Ask and ye shall receive:

Seek and ye shall find:

NAVAIR Rocks!


29 posted on 07/29/2016 7:43:48 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain

Great picks and the first is what I was talking about, but the middle one I’d have to see a video of it to believe it.


30 posted on 07/29/2016 7:51:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Romulus

That percentage seems a bit high to me. I might have difficulty believing 1 percent.


31 posted on 07/29/2016 7:53:28 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

During its history, 27 Blue Angels pilots have been killed in air show or training accidents.[42] Through the 2006 season there have been 262 pilots in the squadron’s history,[43] giving the job a 10% fatality rate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Angels


32 posted on 07/29/2016 7:58:01 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Pretty costly, in men and materiel.


33 posted on 07/29/2016 7:59:17 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: NorthMountain
Why don’t you apply the same bean-counting attitude to TANF, SNAP, WIC, AFDC, Medicaid, and 0bamacare. Run that project to completion ... then come and talk about bean-counting the Navy to death.

I would be delighted if this same approach were used for every agency you meant. That does not mean the Blue Angels entertainment team should get a pass.

34 posted on 07/29/2016 9:16:09 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: New Perspective
"It brings in millions of dollars just on the merchandise but also millions to every community that pays to host the Blue’s and all of the other acts.

So it sounds as if you are arguing that the mission of the Navy is entertainment and revenue generation for communities?

It is a very worth while goal and have recruited many top pilots because they saw the Blue Angels perform at an airshow.

Then it should easily be demonstrated that: 1) this is a cost-effective method of recruitment and 2) it out-produces less expensive methods.

This seems like a fiscally conservative and accountable approach. I'm amazed conservatives oppose either of those.

35 posted on 07/29/2016 9:19:23 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Take your bean-counting to the welfare office, first. Clean up that mess ... THEN you’ll have some moral authority to bitch and moan about the Navy.


36 posted on 07/29/2016 9:23:17 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain
Take your bean-counting to the welfare office, first. Clean up that mess ... THEN you’ll have some moral authority to bitch and moan about the Navy.

Yeah. Same old song about not goring someone's cherished government program.

"Cut the other one instead!"

Conservatives cut both. That is the source of fiscal authority.

37 posted on 07/29/2016 9:25:02 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
OK. You're right. We don't need a Navy at all ... people get KILLED on those "ship" things. Whadda friggin' waste o' money.

Oh, yes. There's a Constitutional mandate to build and maintain a Navy. And the value to that Navy of morale and civilian good will cannot be measured in dollars. This is something no bean-counter will ever comprehend.

Meanwhile, there's no Constitutional authority whatsoever for the welfare office to even exist. Demolish the whole disgusting edifice!

38 posted on 07/29/2016 9:30:44 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I see from your profile page that you have "Gone International".

Fine. Begone with you. I have no interest whatsoever in anything you have to say.

39 posted on 07/29/2016 9:32:25 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain
I have no interest whatsoever in anything you have to say.

I'll take it that you have no argument left. No surprise.

40 posted on 07/29/2016 9:41:05 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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