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UPDATE: Toxic Ted Cruz’s First Victim Confirmed – Representative Tim Huelskamp Defeated in Primary…
The Last Refuge ^ | August 2, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 08/03/2016 9:02:23 AM PDT by monkapotamus

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To: Fantasywriter

As I’ve said time and time again, conservatives don’t get discouraged, they get angry and active.

For the first time in 70 years, a congressman representing the state’s 1st District was defeated in a primary as political novice Roger Marshall edged past U.S. Rep. Tim Huelskamp on Tuesday, ending a divisive contest between two Republicans that hinged on personality rather than policy.

“I truly am speechless,” Marshall said in an interview. “I’m just happy for Kansas...I think Kansas won tonight.”

Marshall said he and his wife were gearing up for a late night Tuesday after polling showed the race between himself and Huelskamp to be close. Instead, the margin of victory was 13 percentage points and 13,500 votes.

“I’m shocked,” Marshall said. “All of our internal polling had us up one or two percent.”

Well-funded by his own pocketbook and those of donors, Marshall battled Huelskamp for more than a year across the 63-county district that covers most of the state, including its entire western half. The Great Bend obstetrician and hospital executive seized on Huelskamp’s removal from the House Agriculture Committee and opposition to the 2014 farm bill as emblematic of the congressman’s uncompromising conservatism harming constituents.

Folksy and irreverent, Huelskamp has been a tea party favorite inside and outside of Washington. His opposition to virtually all appropriation bills – including those that funded agriculture programs and kept the government open – made him susceptible to being labeled an obstructionist.

One month before Tuesday’s primary, the Kansas Farm Bureau endorsed the challenger over the incumbent, a decision unprecedented in the KFB’s history. Marshall coupled the endorsement with that of the Kansas Livestock Association and other agriculture groups to depict himself as the candidate of farmers and ranchers.

On several occasions, Marshall and his supporters took aim at Huelskamp’s view of himself as an outsider in Congress. Television ads called Huelskamp “Washing-Tim” and alleged he had grown too cozy with special interests in the capital while ignoring Kansas constituents. Marshall, a doctor who has never held elected office, repeatedly referred to Huelskamp as a career politician, a grating label for the tea party firebrand.

What separated Huelskamp and Marshall was personality, not policy. The two Republicans agreed on nearly every major issue. As a result, voters were left to decide which personality they preferred representing them.

“Soft-spoken and oratorically awkward, Marshall called himself a “peacemaker.” He framed Huelskamp as bombastic to the point of ineffectuality, accusing the congressman of accomplishing little during his three terms in Congress.

“I’m looking forward to meeting House Speaker (Paul) Ryan,” Marshall said after his win Tuesday. “I’m looking forward to working with him to get things done.”
http://cjonline.com/news/2016-08-02/roger-marshall-unseats-rep-tim-huelskamp-bitter-republican-primary#


221 posted on 08/03/2016 5:03:48 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"You should work on your reading skills. Do you think Marshall works for the Conservative cause ? Huelskamp has. Marshall is an open-borders establishment crony and puppet."


And you should work on your analyzing skills.   If Trump loses, and Hillary becomes the president (like your Cruzer-Loser candidate Huelskamp and his biggest backers, the Koch brothers and Ted Cruz want), it is totally meaningless what goals and principles Huelskamp claims to stand on.   Not one single conservative goal will be actually realized under president Hillary for the next four or eight more years, just like not one single conservative goal was actually realized in the past eight years under president B-O.

The "conservatives" in congress can give conservative speech after conservative speech after conservative speech, while they actually do absolutely nothing, and president Hillary will end up destroying the United States of America.

By directly or indirectly backing Trump's opponent, those "conservative" clowns are foolishly cutting off their noses to spite their faces.   If Trump loses like those anti-Trump clowns want, our country is in big trouble, regardless of who gets elected to congress.

222 posted on 08/03/2016 5:25:12 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Heart-Rest

The new Republican candidate describes himself as a “peacemaker” and he can’t wait to work with Paul Ryan.


223 posted on 08/03/2016 5:34:16 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Fantasywriter

So you believe the neverTrump effort, as practiced SUBSEQUENT to Trump’s winning well more than enough delegates to secure the nomination, actually helped Trump and hurt Hillary?
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I have no idea, nor do I claim to know.
However, I know that without about 90% of Republicans voting for him, he will most likely lose.

I don’t agree with the neverTrump effort, but I did believe them.
They told everyone they were neverTrump, long before he locked up the nomination. That is a chance that the Trump supporters took when they nominated him.

They might come on board in the end. I sure hope they do, because the alternative is unfathomable.
However, it seems pointless to blame the neverTrump movement now, when they are only doing exactly what they told you they would do from the beginning.


224 posted on 08/03/2016 5:51:02 PM PDT by kara37
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To: Nero Germanicus

Yes to most of that. No need to repeal the 2nd Amendment, just infringe it to death and stack the court with leftist judges.

Far as TPP and Garland go, lame duck session incoming.


225 posted on 08/03/2016 6:01:26 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Fantasywriter

Nice thinking. What you say is the naked truth... not a fantasy at all. It’s get Trump elected or sacrifice the country.


226 posted on 08/03/2016 6:54:10 PM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: chris37

When faced with a radical leftist president, Congress blocking his agenda is job one.


227 posted on 08/03/2016 8:13:19 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

They haven’t.

They’ve funded all of it. They work for him.


228 posted on 08/03/2016 8:25:01 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37

They funded the closing of Guantanemo?
They funded abortion on demand?
They funded the repeal of the second amendment?
Wow, I didn’t hear about any of that.


229 posted on 08/03/2016 9:48:25 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Learn to read, man.

And hey, if what the GOPE is doing suits you, then by all means vote for ‘em.

Knock yourself out.


230 posted on 08/03/2016 9:55:08 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Nero Germanicus

As I’m posting this, left winger Rachel Maddow of MSNBC is on in the background celebrating the defeat of Tea Party endorsed Huelskamp and the victory of Chamber of Commerce endorsed Marshall. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce spent $400,000 to get rid of Huelskamp because he’s such an extreme budget hawk on federal spending.


231 posted on 08/03/2016 9:56:27 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: kara37

I blame people who call themselves conservatives, but whose actions have done nothing but help Hillary.


232 posted on 08/03/2016 10:08:39 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: poconopundit

Thanks!


233 posted on 08/03/2016 10:11:17 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: kara37

“They got the Trump supporters to go along for the ride.”
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Actually Timmy boy did that all by himself when he hitched his wagon to the GOPe nevertrump train. He’s responsible for his loss. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut but instead he had to join in with folks like Lindsey Graham and John McCain.


234 posted on 08/03/2016 10:46:11 PM PDT by redbeetle
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To: Nero Germanicus
"The new Republican candidate describes himself as a “peacemaker” and he can’t wait to work with Paul Ryan."


His primary opponent, Tim Huelskamp, couldn't wait to work with Rotten Ryan either, and was actually given a choice leadership role in congress recently by Rotten Ryan, before the voters in his own district (who know him best) unceremoniously gave him the big boot, and tellingly negated Rotten Ryan's assignment decision.

Regarding the "peacemakers", Jesus Christ had this to say:

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God."     Matthew 5:9
(With that nugget of wisdom from the Gospel, I bid you and all here goodnight.)
235 posted on 08/03/2016 11:01:35 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Fantasywriter

What you’ve said is worthless and unproven. You have no links, no articles, no nothing. You’re talking out of your ass. You championed the election of a left-winger with Marshall over a proven Conservative with the record to prove it. You are no Conservative, sir, and you are a liar.


236 posted on 08/04/2016 6:03:36 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Heart-Rest

You endorsed and championed an establishment left-winger in Marshall along with your fellow nutters. You’re not a Conservative. Case closed.


237 posted on 08/04/2016 6:05:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Speaking of conservatives. Huelskamp got on FOX and said he wouldn’t/couldn’t even let his children watch Trump on tv because he’s too vulgar/crass/corrupting an influence. I.e.: even a few minutes of seeing Trump on tv might turn his kids into perverts.

Now you tell me. Has Huelskamp ever said anything like that about Hillary? Hillary idolizes Alinksy, who dedicated his book to Lucifer. But she’s just fine, and Trump’s not? Hmm. Maybe Huelskamp’s afraid his kids might hear Trump say, ‘Make America great again’?

What about Obama? Did Huelskamp go on FOX and say he couldn’t let his kids watch Obama? After all, Obama first of all promotes sodomy, and secondly promotes a demon-worshipping cult. Surely Huelskamp, great conservative that he is, has gone public about this?

Are you kidding me?

Are you KIDDING me???

‘Conservatives’ like Huelskamp don’t guard their kids from foul mouthed, irreverent Hillary or the-best-friend-sodomy-ever-had Obama. It’s just that evil capitalist, GOP nominee Trump who’s a danger to children.

Conservative my foot. If that’s the best you can fo, then leave me alone. I’m sick and nauseated by the hypocrisy.


238 posted on 08/04/2016 6:41:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I blame people who call themselves conservatives, but whose actions have done nothing but help Hillary.
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Let me ask you a question? Who was to blame when McCain and Romney lost?

Was it the people that nominated candidates that were bad choices, or was it the people that didn’t vote for them?

See, there will be plenty of blame to go around if Trump loses, but it won’t make a difference.

We will still have president Hillary, and that can’t happen.

He can’t win unless he gets about 90% of republicans, and that’s just a fact.

So, instead of trying to crush the people that we desperately need, we better figure out a way to earn their votes.

I wish I was as optimistic as some on the site, but I am not. I see the most self destructive behavior from our candidate and his most avid supporters.

I see Trump supporters trying to get rid the most conservative members of congress. Well, these conservatives have thousands of supporters too, and we need their votes.

There were thousands of democrats that said they would never vote for Obama after Hillary lost, but in the end, they did vote for him.
He didn’t win them over by continuing to attack Hillary’s voters, he tried to win them over.

Get on message.


239 posted on 08/04/2016 7:03:34 AM PDT by kara37
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To: kara37

I’m not interested in turning a short, simple point into a never-ending dissertation. Here is my point, my only point (as far as this discussion/thread is concerned):

You can be a conservative, or you can help elect Hillary. It’s either/or, not both/and.

If you want to discuss other, or even related, issues, I wish you all the best in finding someone with the time and motivation to carry out that exercise with you. I, however, am not that person. I’ve made my point, and it’s simple, concise and clear. Take it or leave it.


240 posted on 08/04/2016 7:21:26 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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