Posted on 08/06/2016 3:06:59 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe
I don’t believe Trump will scorn Juan for his Tokyo Rose speech as he was never in the military.
As veterans you, I and others here can debate the act of doing what pleases the enemy.
I understand.
But where did he get his info?
What sources?
A fitting tribute to a true American hero: www.LanceSijanMoH.com
“He still had a sidearm”.
You need to do slightly more research: he landed in a shallow lake in the middle of the city with one arm broken and both shoulders dislocated. Just a tad difficult, tactically.
I take it that you’ve never been shot at while you’re out in the water. I have and it isn’t fun.
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His story is one that makes any American swell with pride.
Inspiring young man.
A tragedy that he was lost.
His story should be required reading for all the snowflakes out there.
I challenge any American to read this and not get misty-eyed:
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/au-24/meurer.pdf
You may recall about 6 - 8 months before the 08 election McCain went on a "Trade Mission" to Vietnam, while this occurred after Hack's death, my sources suggested that in fact McCain was there to cut a deal to keep incriminating evidence of collaboration sealed that would damage his image during the election.
Not all.
Adm Stockdale, for one. There are many others.
Hackworth was interesting and did some good early on, but like Ted Baxter on Fox, he went all in on his own hype and wandered into la-la land.
Look, we know McCain is an idiot but he was a terribly injured and tortured POW.
Separate the two.
I’m no fan of John McCain but this is a new low. Especially for FR.
Please ask the mods to delete this post.
Unfortunately Adm Stockdale who was a true hero, died a few years before the election. That said, I doubt a man of his great courage, resolve and dedication would say anything good about McCain.
Hack was well connected, respected and had good sources. I'll take Hack's version of events as truth, which are that McCain is a traitor & collaborator
His subsequent voting record in the Senate confirms this.
I am a Viet vet. I was taught to resist, to delay, to confuse, to obfuscate, and, if need be, to die, giving them NOTHING!!
The POW’s at the Hanoi Hilton became political bargaining chips. The North Vietnamese, under the direction of the Chinese, since neither had ever signed The Geneva Convention (of course only held to the Western World), there were no limits to what those guys had heaped on them, but they did break the UCMJ.
There are those that were in there with John McCain that will have nothing to do with him, and I can see why. John McCain, the admiral’s son, got himself shot down, and became a ‘pet’ of the North Vietnamese.
By the way, it is NOT ‘VN’, it is one word, ‘Vietnam’. ‘VN’ is a Naval classification.
Stockdale did defend McCain for his time as a POW.
He dis not support McCain the politician.
Hackworth was a has-been by the time be passed.
Refer to my previous posts if you wish to continue as all has been said.
I’ve been shot at while crawling through mud at midnight.
“So yet again Trump is correct, “
That’s the key point.
Not saying I would have been any better than Juan McCain, but I hope I would.
That said I’m not one of 100 people who can set treaty conditions for an entire nation of 300 million people.
Boot McCain. Remove him, but only after some reporter with balls/tits asks him about the 20 million dollar Saudi contribution to his family foundation.
Change your handle.
Your selected nom de plume shows ‘Liberty’, but your attempt at censorship has nothing to do with Liberty.
POW is no reason to elect a Communist to Congress.
McCain is, was, always will be a LOSER.
No apologies.
So according to you, all the POWs that broke are all weaklings. It is clear your statement makes clear you feel all POWs that broke are dishonorable and worthy of scorn. That is the message you are sending.
Previous posts explain the Code and why the Code was adjusted because most all POWs broke and those that did break believed they violated the code and would be prosecuted and that added untold stress to their captivity.
When attending SERE had the honor of meeting a couple of former VN POWs, and they were very helpful in understanding the psychology of captivity and torture, and the effects of being broken (yes, they broke).
The American military understood the POW experience in NVN was not Hogan’s Heroes by any measure and they understood you can be broken and you should resist to the utmost of your ability, but not to the point of death. That was the “escape clause.”
Notwithstanding your position, as long as you gave all you had to resist, you would “return with honor.”
Being broken is not collaboration.
You are letting your McCain hatred cloud your judgement and causes you to smear the honor and courage of all POWs that broke, not only during the VN war, but those in the Gulf War. . .they were tortured, too.
It’s all been said and nothing new is to be said. See my previous posts as they have answers/replies to any further posts you may have.
Certainly, you must agree that further exchanges would only be to engage in a flame war/insult fest, and that is for juveniles and children, not adults.
Cheers
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