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To ID or not to ID?
Townhall.com ^ | August 23, 2016 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 08/23/2016 6:51:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

Every election cycle we must endure challenges and allegations about fraud (conservatives) and discrimination (liberals) when it comes to voter ID laws. This year is no different.

A federal court ruled that the Texas Voter ID law passed in 2011, requiring voters to present official photo identification, discriminated again poor, minority and disabled voters and ordered a judge to approve new interim rules for the Nov. 8 election. The new rules will broaden the list of acceptable forms of ID. Voters will now be able to present, among other things, an expired ID, a government check or a current utility bill. "Supporting documents don't have to have a photo, reports The Austin Chronicle, "but if they happen to, then voters will need to present the original. Otherwise, they can present a copy."

Similar battles over voter identification laws are being waged in other states, notably Wisconsin and North Carolina.

It's worth reviewing the list of the seven forms of identification currently accepted by Texas law -- a Texas driver license issued by the Department of Public Safety (DPS); a Texas election identification card issued by DPS; a personal identification card issued by DPS; a license to carry a handgun issued by DPS; U.S. military identification card containing the person's photo; U.S. citizenship certificate containing the person's photograph; a U.S. passport.

Granted, most poor people are unlikely to have a passport, but the state will issue any legal resident an identification card. Are civil rights groups who sued the state contending that poor and minority people are so inept that they can't apply for an identification card? If that is their position, how are they able to apply for SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistant Program) benefits, which require a photo ID? Why is voting the one category in which you don't have to prove your citizenship and legal residence?

I will answer that question in a moment.

Three years ago during a similar controversy, Ashe Schow of The Washington Examiner compiled a list of 24 things that require a photo ID.

You must have a photo ID if you are 25 or under and wish to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. Store signs say so. Want to open a bank account? Photo ID required. Here are the rest of the categories: applying for welfare, Medicaid and Social Security (presumably poor people take advantage of one or more of these programs); unemployment benefits (ditto); rent/buy a house, or apply for a mortgage; drive/buy/rent a car; get on an airplane; get married; buy a gun; adopt a pet; rent a hotel room; apply for a hunting or fishing license; buy a cellphone; visit a casino; pick up a prescription (or buy restricted over-the-counter medications); donate blood; apply for a license to hold a demonstration; buy an "M"-rated video game; purchase nail polish at CVS.

Again, why is voting placed in a separate category? Why are liberal groups determined to repeal laws requiring proof of citizenship and residence? The answer is found in a definition of the word fraud: "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage."

Since many poor people are receiving government benefits, they are responsive to Democrats' claims that Republicans want to cut them off, so they had better vote early and vote often, as the saying goes, or else. Notice the left never focuses on emancipating people from poverty. That might make the poor independent of government, which would be intolerable to the left. They need a reliable voting bloc and keeping the poor dependent on government is a modern form of slavery that is cynical in the extreme.

Unless discrimination against an individual can be proved, these voter ID laws should be upheld. Otherwise, expect more votes from dead people, illegal aliens, people with false addresses and even Mickey Mouse. All of these scenarios have occurred in previous elections and are likely to be repeated in this and future ones without proper identification.


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1 posted on 08/23/2016 6:51:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

At the very least we should do the purple finger thing. Make sure no one votes more than once. But, yes, Photo ID for registered voters just makes sense.


2 posted on 08/23/2016 6:56:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Kaslin

No ID, purple finger.


3 posted on 08/23/2016 7:00:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Poo poo the polls at Trump's peril.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The ONLY reason not to photo ID is voter fraud...Pure and simple...


4 posted on 08/23/2016 7:00:39 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

If we did the purple finger thing, we would have to do away with early voting or they could scrub it off....


5 posted on 08/23/2016 7:01:40 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Under the revised rules, won’t most everyone show a picture ID anyway? Just to save time; I don’t see that many with utility stubs as ID.


6 posted on 08/23/2016 7:02:26 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Pence, Kelli Ward 2016)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You got it.


7 posted on 08/23/2016 7:05:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (He neededAwesomeOf the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: JBW1949

The purple ink used in Iraqi elections has to wear off. I don’t like or trust early voting.


8 posted on 08/23/2016 7:11:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Poo poo the polls at Trump's peril.)
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To: Kaslin

So whats wrong with judges that they strike down these laws?

Do they NOT know about the myriad of examples where you have to show id, poor minority or not?

And if they do know that why do they get stupid when voter id cases come their way?

[Yeah, i imagine in know very well why...]


9 posted on 08/23/2016 7:12:24 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Kaslin; mad_as_he$$

Purple finger REQUIRED for voters with no ID.

Optional for voters with ID as a badge of (there’s a word that goes here, something like: courage, pride, involved citizenship, franchise, or ?)


10 posted on 08/23/2016 7:12:48 AM PDT by null and void (Has there ever been a death associated with the Clintons that *wasn't* beneficial to them?)
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To: Kaslin

democrats and progressives have no problem with voter id in CT, only red states..that should tell you something


11 posted on 08/23/2016 7:13:01 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Kaslin
discriminated again poor, minority and disabled voters and ordered a judge to approve new interim rules for the Nov. 8 election.

You mean the very same poor who have to provide this same ID to get the government bennies they receive because they are so poor?

12 posted on 08/23/2016 7:16:03 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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Oh!

Golly and gosh darn, I don’t have a photo ID. Maybe I should vote absentee, by mail.

Idiots.


13 posted on 08/23/2016 7:16:34 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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:: seven forms of identification currently accepted by Texas law
a Texas driver license issued by the Department of Public Safety (DPS)
a Texas election identification card issued by the Department of Public Safety (DPS)
a personal identification card issued by the Department of Public Safety (DPS)
a license to carry a handgun issued by the Department of Public Safety (DPS)
U.S. military identification card containing the person's photo; U.S. citizenship certificate containing the person's photograph; a U.S. passport. ::

Seems to me, some folks might be worried about outstanding warrants. DPS is the State Trooper realm out here.

14 posted on 08/23/2016 7:16:34 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Adder

:: So whats wrong with judges that they strike down these laws? ::

2 things.
Self preservation.
Eye-D-ology


15 posted on 08/23/2016 7:16:34 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Kaslin

So we need ID for beer and cigarettes but not for voting.


16 posted on 08/23/2016 7:16:41 AM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: JBW1949

Exactly. NC Legislature managed to pass a voter ID law only to have it overturned in court. Governor McCrory - Repub - said we would appeal that ruling. As of now, I don’t know the status of voter ID in NC if this is under appeal.

The only problem with the appeal is that our Attorney General is a Demonrat who is running for Governor - who will not do his duty and pursue the appeal.

Voter ID can stop a lot of the voter fraud and it only makes sense to have it.


17 posted on 08/23/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: mad_as_he$$

I agree...I think they should do away with early voting AND require a voter ID...

The minority claim that they have a hard time getting an ID is BS...They have to have photo ID for their EBT (or whatever it’s called) welfare card usage among many other things....


18 posted on 08/23/2016 7:17:42 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I agree...Cooper is a piece of crap for NOT doing his job in the “bathroom” debacle....


19 posted on 08/23/2016 7:20:54 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: IYAS9YAS
To get just a state-issued ID in New Mexico costs $10 for a four-year ID, or just $18 for an eight-year ID.

That $18 is cheaper than a carton of cigs, case of Bud, any street-vendor's product, or a dinner for four at McD's.

20 posted on 08/23/2016 7:21:58 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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