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How Can You Love Guns Knowing They Kill So Many People?
pjmedia.com ^ | 8/29/2016 | Liz Shields

Posted on 08/30/2016 8:34:44 AM PDT by rktman

John B. Fischer over at The Atlantic wants to explore the question "Is it morally acceptable to love machine guns?"

He wonders, how can one love guns knowing they kill people in this "era of mass violence"?

Fischer asks this question while visiting and participating in Oklahoma's Full Auto Shoot and Trade Show (OFASTS).

I came here to answer a question: Why do people find it fun to attend a festival where they can shoot the country’s most powerful civilian weaponry during a time of mass violence? In many people’s view, gun ownership is integral to America’s cultural identity. But guns also cause a significant number of preventable deaths every year. So OFASTS offers a distinctive combination of recreation and regulation: Fans of automatic weapons have the chance to use some of the most heavily tracked armaments in the country, in an environment akin to a county fair.

The answer to that question, as Fischer finds out, is because it is fun. Or as he describes, "Plus, as I discovered, shooting was a genuine thrill—not unlike the adrenaline rush of driving a car at illegally high speeds."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yup. About 19,000 out of the 32,000. Wish they’d do the garage/running car scenario.


101 posted on 08/30/2016 9:26:27 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: vette6387

Apparently I erred on searching the OP’s misidentification of the writer. It was Liz Sheld, no Liz Shields. As an earlier poster indicated THIS Liz Sheld is somehow pro-gun, but it is a little cryptic to me. Maybe because I’m just a dumbass country boy as my wife always tells me.

My bad, mea culpa - so sorry. But I will add that in my search of Liz Shields and anti-gun, image, what I posted came up.


102 posted on 08/30/2016 9:26:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: M Kehoe

“She should worry more about the health effects of all those canolis she’s throwing down her pie hole.”

Probably more likely an over generous helping of Knishes or Cheese Blintzes!


103 posted on 08/30/2016 9:27:28 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: IYAS9YAS
Had this 1960 Eldo at our show 2 weeks ago.

Normally, not my style of car, but this thing was gorgeous. The lines were PERFECT. The paint like glass. The interior like it came out of the showroom.

104 posted on 08/30/2016 9:29:06 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Gaffer

Cue Belushi screaming.


105 posted on 08/30/2016 9:29:52 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: rktman

Things I love that have killed people; cars, guns, electricity, petroleum, bicycles, weights, cutlery oh and let’s be really fun here.

Peanut butter, raspberries, shellfish and bees!

BEES!!!!! BEES!!!!!


106 posted on 08/30/2016 9:31:13 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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To: rktman

I don’t know where I got Joel as the author of this drivel.

But my comment about the penis stands ...


107 posted on 08/30/2016 9:34:09 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: rktman

Gee, then the author must hate the Marines, the Navy, the Army, the Air Force

And of course, everyone in the Pentagon, Defense Dept, etc

The hate must be everywhere


108 posted on 08/30/2016 9:34:26 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Romeo + Juliet = True Love hilLIAR + Obambi = ISIS)
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To: rktman

If Guns kill, then every one of mine is defective.


109 posted on 08/30/2016 9:36:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: IronJack

“...the penis stands.” Too much info IronJack. LOL!


110 posted on 08/30/2016 9:36:44 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman
"Is it morally acceptable to love machine guns?"

Is it morally acceptable to love a politician?
111 posted on 08/30/2016 9:36:50 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: rktman
Yes,guns certainly kill some people.And I,unlike some,don't *love* firearms.But I,like some and unlike others,understand and acknowledge the necessity of the Second Amendment.

A very well stated reason,the single most important one,was published some years ago quoting a very well known national figure.

"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used, and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible"

Yes,boys and girls...it was Hubert H Humphrey who said this.

112 posted on 08/30/2016 9:37:11 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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To: lurk

People fear guns because they make loud noises, not because they claim so many lives.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think you’re on to something.


113 posted on 08/30/2016 9:37:39 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yup. In 7th grade Civic class (whatever that is today) I supported HHH as part of the class assignment because of this stance. What was that 1960? Hoo Lee Crap. Thas a long time ago.


114 posted on 08/30/2016 9:39:38 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: mountn man
Normally, not my style of car, but this thing was gorgeous. The lines were PERFECT. The paint like glass. The interior like it came out of the showroom.

She's a beaut... Not my style, either, I prefer 40s anything, and muscle cars, but very nicely done.

115 posted on 08/30/2016 9:40:38 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: rktman
How Can You Love PEOPLE Knowing They Kill So Many People?

Especially people from Chicago.

116 posted on 08/30/2016 9:40:49 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill TWITTER !! Kill FACEBOOK !! Free MILO !!)
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To: rktman

Machine guns save people. Blacks would have avoided lynching by democrats as a minority if they had been thus equipped


117 posted on 08/30/2016 9:41:12 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Little Pig

NONE of the CHICAGO shootings were done by NRA members.
NONE. ZERO. (Probably NEVER!)


118 posted on 08/30/2016 9:45:37 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Sans-Culotte

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zei3xnivwFk&list=RDzei3xnivwFk


119 posted on 08/30/2016 9:45:50 AM PDT by Osage Orange (You hurt my family...you better watch your six.)
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To: rktman
What was that 1960? Hoo Lee Crap. Thas a long time ago.

Yes,IIRC it was 1960.Imagine that clown Franken taking such a position.Of course he supports *his* right to keep and bear arms...but not *ours*.

120 posted on 08/30/2016 9:46:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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