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Tolls not likely to fade away, experts say
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | August 17, 2016 | Jason Ruiter

Posted on 09/05/2016 8:08:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In the year 2042, something potentially significant to Central Florida motorists could happen.

The Central Florida Expressway Authority, which operates 109 miles of toll roads in Orange County, will have paid off its $4.3 billion in bonds.

But when the roads are paid for, what happens to the tolls? Many drivers would love to see them disappear.

"That would be a big break for a lot of people," said Steven Dewdney, an Orlando resident.

But because Central Florida has growing transportation needs and will need to build more roads and support commuter rail, removing tolls are unlikely, experts say.

The authority's 2040 preliminary plan is looking at building another 80 miles of roadways with a projected cost of $3.2 billion to $4.5 billion. Many details are not yet available, but it may widen the BeachLine Expressway and parts of State Road 429 as well as build roads in east Orange and Osceola counties.

As transportation coffers are hamstrung by low gas tax revenues, toll dollars are increasingly seen as the new key for funding construction. Authorities across the country have paid for other transportation projects using toll dollars, and some Central Florida toll board members expressed openness to the idea.

Looking at other options for transportation dollars is a "long-range goal of ours," said Welton Cadwell, chairman for the authority. "We're open to any other options that can enhance our users and the folks who aren't using the system."

The Central Florida authority is the second-biggest regional tolling authority in the country, according to federal data. It collected $350 million in toll revenues in its 2015 fiscal year, an 80 percent increase from its 2006 revenues, and that is forecast to keep rising.

In Central Florida, such funding could be especially relevant.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Kentucky; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: cashcows; cfx; florida; funding; infrastructure; kentucky; maryland; orlando; sunrail; tolls; transportation
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1 posted on 09/05/2016 8:08:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
...the gift that keeps on giving...

Tolls, the grift that keeps on getting.

2 posted on 09/05/2016 8:10:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
and support commuter rail

Toll the roads to support building rail. A liberal's dream come true.

3 posted on 09/05/2016 8:11:09 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Toll the roads to support building rail. A liberal’s dream come true.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Don’t forget bicycle paths and urban mass transit.


4 posted on 09/05/2016 8:15:37 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Houston opened the Sam Houston Tollway back in the 80's. They had a free concert featuring "The Bangles" to open it up.

The county promised the toll booths would come down when the road was paid for. It's been paid for years and it's still one of the most expensive toll roads in the country per mile.

5 posted on 09/05/2016 8:16:21 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’d bet good money that the number of tolls for bridges and roads that governments have sunsetted can fit into a Post It note.


6 posted on 09/05/2016 8:17:57 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

New York promised to end Thruway tolls once the bonds were paid off. Never happened.


7 posted on 09/05/2016 8:22:26 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Hatem bridge has been long since paid for. As has, I believe the Susquehanna river bridge.

I remember when the tolls were raised from $2 to $5, the Baltimore Sun (a.k.a. “the Blight for All”) had a snotty editorial that stated $5 was not too much to pay. People could afford it, etc. etc.

When the MTA raised the tolls to $8, I attended a town meeting about it. There was fear over what the truckers would do at the toll booths (truckers pay much higher rates, based on the number of axles).

There was universal opposition. So what did the MTA do?

Put in the $8 rates.

They will hike it again. Just watch.


8 posted on 09/05/2016 8:24:14 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Unfortunately tolls are not only here to stay but will increase dramatically.

Over 50 per cent of drivers now have the "EX-Pass" type transponders that automatically deduct tolls from their bank accounts. So people drive through them without even knowing how much they are being charged.

At some point, there will be automated tolls on virtually ever highway and it will cost the average motorist between $500 and $1,000 per month to drive he roadways.

9 posted on 09/05/2016 8:24:56 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To: Snickering Hound

Ironic it was a “free” concert!


10 posted on 09/05/2016 8:26:35 AM PDT by DrJeff
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To: jalisco555

Right. Instead they rolled the thruway (Interstate 90) up with the Erie canal and made it one big “authority”. Your Thruway tolls now pay for operation of the canal that is only sparsely used by pleasure boats and for a bicycle trail that runs along it.


11 posted on 09/05/2016 8:31:19 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

To much money to grifted by government.


12 posted on 09/05/2016 8:33:17 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well how else would they pay for the now retired Expressway employees Pensions?


13 posted on 09/05/2016 8:40:29 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Tolls not likely to fade away, experts greedy professional parasites who won't get off the tit say...

There fixed it.

14 posted on 09/05/2016 8:41:59 AM PDT by lafroste
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is nothing as long-lived as a temporary tax.


15 posted on 09/05/2016 8:42:10 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: All

408 aka the beeline goes from Orlando to the East coast. It was supposed to be paid for and tolls dropped about 30-40 years ago but the road always needed repairs and expansion so it’s still a toll road.


16 posted on 09/05/2016 8:47:11 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

HaHaHaHaHa!!!!

Ask the Bay Area how many times the Golden Gate bridge has been paid off,, and what it subsidizes today.

Bridges are like golden geese.. slap some tollbooths up and reap the wealth.. well, spread it around anyway.


17 posted on 09/05/2016 8:50:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: SamAdams76

At some point, there will be automated tolls on virtually ever highway and it will cost the average motorist between $500 and $1,000 per month to drive he roadways.


This is quite possible. What should frustrate all of us, is that we already pay substantial gas taxes, each time we go to the gas station. These gas taxes are supposed to pay for road maintenance.

This prompts me to wonder, where are our gas taxes going, if there will be the need to charge more and more tolls on various roads????


18 posted on 09/05/2016 8:52:54 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The bond for the Mass Turnpike has been paid off a dozen times over. Yet the Pols keep floating a new bond whenever the old one is close to being paid off. The tolls will never go away because a politician never met a tax he didn’t like.


19 posted on 09/05/2016 8:55:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: SamAdams76
At some point, there will be automated tolls on virtually ever highway and it will cost the average motorist between $500 and $1,000 per month to drive he roadways.

Correctamundo. The Mass Turnpike is taking down their toll booths and are requiring the use of EZ-Pass transponders. If you don't have one, that's ok, they'll just send you a bill. Don't wanna pay it? That's ok. Just try getting your license or registration renewed. They get you coming and going. Pun intended.

20 posted on 09/05/2016 8:59:11 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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