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1 posted on 09/05/2016 8:08:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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...the gift that keeps on giving...

Tolls, the grift that keeps on getting.

2 posted on 09/05/2016 8:10:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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and support commuter rail

Toll the roads to support building rail. A liberal's dream come true.

3 posted on 09/05/2016 8:11:09 AM PDT by PAR35
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Houston opened the Sam Houston Tollway back in the 80's. They had a free concert featuring "The Bangles" to open it up.

The county promised the toll booths would come down when the road was paid for. It's been paid for years and it's still one of the most expensive toll roads in the country per mile.

5 posted on 09/05/2016 8:16:21 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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I’d bet good money that the number of tolls for bridges and roads that governments have sunsetted can fit into a Post It note.


6 posted on 09/05/2016 8:17:57 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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New York promised to end Thruway tolls once the bonds were paid off. Never happened.


7 posted on 09/05/2016 8:22:26 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell.)
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The Hatem bridge has been long since paid for. As has, I believe the Susquehanna river bridge.

I remember when the tolls were raised from $2 to $5, the Baltimore Sun (a.k.a. “the Blight for All”) had a snotty editorial that stated $5 was not too much to pay. People could afford it, etc. etc.

When the MTA raised the tolls to $8, I attended a town meeting about it. There was fear over what the truckers would do at the toll booths (truckers pay much higher rates, based on the number of axles).

There was universal opposition. So what did the MTA do?

Put in the $8 rates.

They will hike it again. Just watch.


8 posted on 09/05/2016 8:24:14 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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Unfortunately tolls are not only here to stay but will increase dramatically.

Over 50 per cent of drivers now have the "EX-Pass" type transponders that automatically deduct tolls from their bank accounts. So people drive through them without even knowing how much they are being charged.

At some point, there will be automated tolls on virtually ever highway and it will cost the average motorist between $500 and $1,000 per month to drive he roadways.

9 posted on 09/05/2016 8:24:56 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To much money to grifted by government.


12 posted on 09/05/2016 8:33:17 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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Well how else would they pay for the now retired Expressway employees Pensions?


13 posted on 09/05/2016 8:40:29 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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Tolls not likely to fade away, experts greedy professional parasites who won't get off the tit say...

There fixed it.

14 posted on 09/05/2016 8:41:59 AM PDT by lafroste
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There is nothing as long-lived as a temporary tax.


15 posted on 09/05/2016 8:42:10 AM PDT by IronJack
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HaHaHaHaHa!!!!

Ask the Bay Area how many times the Golden Gate bridge has been paid off,, and what it subsidizes today.

Bridges are like golden geese.. slap some tollbooths up and reap the wealth.. well, spread it around anyway.


17 posted on 09/05/2016 8:50:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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The bond for the Mass Turnpike has been paid off a dozen times over. Yet the Pols keep floating a new bond whenever the old one is close to being paid off. The tolls will never go away because a politician never met a tax he didn’t like.


19 posted on 09/05/2016 8:55:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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They’ve hired hundreds of people to manage the tolls and would hate to fire them...


24 posted on 09/05/2016 9:41:00 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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For all their flaws, tolls have several advantages as revenue sources:

1. It's the closest thing to a "user fee" that governments have. It generates revenue from the road users, and gives a highway authority a source of money that doesn't have to compete with other spending from general tax revenues.

2. It gives the highway authority a lot of flexibility to run their system like a responsible private business owner would -- through things like variable tolling, discounts for electronic tolling, etc.

3. It allows the highway authority to have its own bonding capacity and its own bond rating, separate from a fiscally irresponsible government.

4. It gives a state or municipal government a mechanism for collecting revenue from people and businesses outside its jurisdiction who use its infrastructure and services. This is an important consideration for small states with a lot of long-distance traffic passing through it.

Personally, I think toll roads are going to become more common -- but they are also going to offer more benefits to their users. Ohio, for example, is looking at ways to make the Ohio Turnpike more attractive to motorists and truckers -- by potentially allowing higher speed limits, heavier weight limits, or a combination of both.

25 posted on 09/05/2016 9:54:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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If the commuter rail system needs subsidy from the highway toll, get rid of the rail system. Econ 101.


26 posted on 09/05/2016 10:15:42 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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Wow, this is good news for me. I will be 102 in 2042 and can ride FREE!
Actually, I don’t mind paying the tolls. I use the roads and don’t like driving I-4 so I avoid it when able.


27 posted on 09/05/2016 10:37:32 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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HAHAHAHA! By law the Massachusetts Turnpike was to have been paid off in 1977. Today, in 2016, it is still a toll road, paying comfortable lives for an army of government parasites.


28 posted on 09/05/2016 10:45:04 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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state road 528(formerly known as the Beeline now known as the Beachline) that connected Orlando to the east coast(brevard county) was a toll road...it still is. However, the deal was when the road was paid off, the tolls were supposed to come down. In the 80’s the road was paid off, however, The folks in charge said we need the money to continue to pay for other roads and upkeep. Brevard residents said no. They then said we have to keep it up to pay for the toll booth demolition. My understanding was that a resident of brevard county that owned a construction crew said he would do it for free and he did! Brevard has had no tolls since then! Yeah, brevard!

Orange County still has their tolls on 528 along with a to. Of other toll roads.


29 posted on 09/05/2016 11:06:26 AM PDT by June2
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> support commuter rail

Toll autos to support a train. How about a toll on trains to support autos?


31 posted on 09/05/2016 12:38:34 PM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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