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To: wastoute

I believe that old fashioned thing — the grace of God — is looming close to a spiritual rediscovery.

Sometimes this happens right after people have messed up their nests really terribly. What you might think would send the Celestial Master packing in disgust or draw utter destructive wrath, often finds a very measured response instead.


13 posted on 09/23/2016 8:37:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The perspective Adam’s is hawking could account for Christianity as a natural upshot.

Christianity allows for the most people to successfully reproduce.

Chastity limits sexually transmitted disease.

Goodness towards neighbors as a societal norm reduces the chance that they’ll crack your head and steal your stuff.

Etc.

I don’t discount that G-d created Evolution and Natural Selection as a mechanism of showing man the right way spiritually. And that showing can happen unbeknownst, philosophically, and genetically.

Quite interesting. The whole folds in on itself at that point. Who are we to know the ways of G-d?


35 posted on 09/23/2016 8:54:55 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed. We have been empty nesters for over a decade. For years my wife will read out loud several hours a day while I listen so we can share it. For the last year or so we have been catching up on Scifi, a genre we had neglected. Also a month or so I discovered Ancient Aliens. Most of it is goofy but as I “saw the light” and got Baptised in 2000 my wife is still an atheist ( she says). So I am having a lot of fun with all this because I have actually read the Bible a lot. For a Christian the thing you are accepting is that there actually ARE supernatural forces (meaning things our reason has yet to comprehend) at work. While I spent YEARS trying to reason with her, literally to the point she grabbed my arm one day and asked “Where is my husband and what have you done with him?” (LOL) to no avail over the last year reading Assimov, Bradley, and Clarke she is starting to realize there IS something else going on here.

So it is fun to watch her dawning realization of what every REAL scientist knows, what we call science is just what we know SO FAR. Like I say, most of Ancient Aliens is goofy but they root up a real gem from time to time. A few minutes of one episode really got my attention because it was exactly what I had been pondering.

WHAT IF? What if there was a characteristic of human neurophysiology that at a “nano level” we were actually manipulating reality in these other dimensions. In the show they referenced micro tubules as a possible mechanism. What if having once “checked in” in the Fourth Dimension, or whatever, like a universal library, so to speak, you forever had a card to go back there. Even after the organism you built in these threevdimensionscwas gone? Is that what he meant when he said, “In my father’s house there are many mansions...”

Like I say, I am enjoying it because I see that it is “raising awareness” in someone for whom traditional message just did not work.


39 posted on 09/23/2016 9:02:45 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree with you...but I still feel that the Godless Left has not experienced hitting bottom yet to feel the pain of having to turn to humility as their only remaining resource.

They still have too much money standing between them and the bottom.

They think that if they can just get rid of ‘us’, then everyone can live in their “Whole Foods Version of Communism”.


52 posted on 09/23/2016 9:34:29 AM PDT by Be Careful
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