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Trump's knees buckling? He should have at least added "due process".
1 posted on 09/27/2016 8:33:21 AM PDT by aimhigh
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A Star Chamber proceeding to strip a basic Constitutional right is a non-starter.


2 posted on 09/27/2016 8:34:36 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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He also said that those who are the list wrongly need to be removed from the list.


3 posted on 09/27/2016 8:35:06 AM PDT by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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If terror suspects have any constitutional rights, then they have the right to a gun or many guns or high caliber guns. Either they have ALL constitutional rights or they don’t. Period!


4 posted on 09/27/2016 8:35:33 AM PDT by sagar
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I’m curious if the Southern Poverty Law Center can add names to the No Fly List.


5 posted on 09/27/2016 8:38:11 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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He DID make a point of insisting people have a way of addressing being on the list improperly, a roundabout way of saying “due process”.

Pick battles carefully. This isn’t one that helps win the election war.


7 posted on 09/27/2016 8:41:41 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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Trump did piss poor on gun control. he could have mentioned she is against Stop and frisk yet she is for universal background checks and virtual stop and frisk no fly lists for gun purchases?

Also could have mentioned she is targetting blacks for gun control cuz she has the same KKK racist legacy.

On Chicago violence he could have mentioned gun control being ineffective and cities that do well with no gun control, even if accross the border from Ciudad.

I think he was unprepared on the issue. What the hell did the NrA tell him? This is fross incompetence.

whatever.


8 posted on 09/27/2016 8:42:53 AM PDT by lavaroise (s)
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1. there are numerous reports that there’s no good way to get OFF that list (in case you’re put on it by mistake, such as Senator Kennedy and several more well-known people were)

2. if someone’s a terrorist, he should be tried and executed (or at least returned to Krapistan) and not just put on lists


10 posted on 09/27/2016 8:43:58 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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No! This tells them they are on the list and complicates law enforcement’s job. If they are on the list take the appropriate action. Either deport, charge or put under surveillance until you can charge them.


12 posted on 09/27/2016 8:46:24 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (`)
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He booted this answer.
There is no due process for anyone on the list incorrectly.
He did say something about helping people get off the list, but I am still against denying citizens rights without due process.


13 posted on 09/27/2016 8:46:29 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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>>He should have at least added “due process”.<<

Worth repeating.

DUE PROCESS DONALD!

Furthermore, wanna win over black males from 18 to 55?

Knock it off with “Stop & Frisk”. It is blatantly unconstitutional w/o probable cause.


14 posted on 09/27/2016 8:48:20 AM PDT by servantboy777
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[Trump’s knees buckling? He should have at least added “due process”. ]

He mentioned the need for a process to be able to get taken off if on mistakenly toward the end of the exchange, but go drowned out in talking or cheering.


18 posted on 09/27/2016 8:53:28 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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He did.


19 posted on 09/27/2016 8:54:08 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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Trump's knees buckling? He should have at least added "due process".

Didn't want to sound lax on security but he did mention those who were wrongly put on the lists getting assistance to be removed from them.

20 posted on 09/27/2016 8:54:35 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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He did say that he’d be in favor of due process for those who are on the list who should not be.


21 posted on 09/27/2016 8:55:06 AM PDT by Brilliant
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I want to remind Trump that we don’t take constitutional rights away with one little guy wearing a visor in a back room and putting names on a list!! That is absurd denial of due process.However ,I am smart enough to realize that if he says that people on lists cannot be deprived on constitutional right or the Media will say “ Trump supports terrorists on no fly lists to have guns!!” He played defense well here like the foreign born obama issue ( which he is foreign born as hell) . But Trump has bigger fish to fry so as long as he realizes that the List” crap is patently unconstitutional denial of due process — I’m. fine with the game.


24 posted on 09/27/2016 9:01:16 AM PDT by WENDLE (Trump win's the debate!! Hillary aweful!!)
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Notice that he *did* add in something about making sure people on the list really belong there, and making it easier for those who shouldn’t to get off of it.


29 posted on 09/27/2016 9:09:54 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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Actually, they are wrong.

Trump supported the NRA position that those on terror watch list shouldn’t have guns, but that citizens must have easy access to correcting mistakes on the watch list.

The ability to easily correct mistakes is the issue.

Not giving guns to suspected terrorists seems like a no-brainer, and the NRA agrees...provided you have the corrections issue fixed.


31 posted on 09/27/2016 9:13:10 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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for both this and "stop and frisk", the key phrase is "political expediency".

My rights are not negotiable.

34 posted on 09/27/2016 9:23:18 AM PDT by zeugma (Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
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The already in place Background check should catch that ,but you have to stop giving Muslims a Free Pass


37 posted on 09/27/2016 10:43:18 AM PDT by butlerweave
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He made “due process-like” noises but the problem is that a secret list of suspects can never be revealed without compromising sources and methods.

That’s why any terror watch list should only be used for investigative purposes, not for population control measures like preventing us from flying or buying guns.

A secret list that must remain secret is fundamentally incompatible with due process and it’s a problem that can’t be fixed.


41 posted on 09/27/2016 4:49:43 PM PDT by publiusF27
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