Posted on 09/28/2016 11:23:23 AM PDT by GilGil
FULL TITLE: Hillary Clinton was clearly victorious, but only one candidate did enough to win new voters during the presidential debate
...Undecideds are undecided for a reason. They do not like either of these candidates...
To move undecideds, Trump needed to make Clinton look like a politician who doesn’t get it, who doesn’t get you. Over and over again, Trump hammered this point Monday night, arguing she’s had 30 years in politics and little to show for it. He called her a “typical politician,” said she was “all talk, no action,” and in subtle and not-so-subtle ways, painted her as an elite, out-of-touch Washington insider.
As always-insightful Salena Zito chronicles in two recent posts, this is a winning riff for Trump.
In places like East Liverpool, Ohio, longtime Democratic strongholds, it’s not about racism or Islamophobia, as many in the media like to imagine. It’s — still — the economy, stupid.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
Having said this notice how Cupp devotes 2/3 rd of her article to trashing Trump. Here she is throwing red meat to all the democrats so she can throw as wide of a net for her article-manure.
Then Mika Brezinski says the following, “I think, probably, we all think Hillary won.”
You have to ask who is the "we." The "we" is the elite media who naturally do not count. The "we" is not all the voters who are the only ones who count.
Then this pearl where Cupp says that she is a NeverTrumper like Bill Kristol. How unbiased of her. She does not mention the Lester Holt biases. This article-manure is more biased than Holt.
But somehow in the elite media's pea brain they assert that Hillary won but somehow Trump got more new voters. You have to love this logic. Hillary wons but fails. Trump fails but wins.
What Cupp and her article-manure are hinting at is that this election is over and President-elect Trump is a fait accompli. Cupp and Kristol and the other failures out there need to get over it!
And the Cubs clearly won the World Series last year, they just didn’t have enough wins over other teams.
Absurd!
Typical SE Cupp says “Hillary clearly won”.
A bunch of talking airheads declaring Cankles the “winner” does not make it so.
By definition, winning the debate means you add votes and your opponent loses them.
Any other definition is of interest only to the MSM and college professors.
Trump support is up. Hillary support is down.
So Trump won the debate.
HilLIARy’s only victory has been staying out of prison
Ahhh yes, the ever prescient and wise Mika. Just like the old man!
Recent polls disclose that the US media has attained a new status: Americans’ trust in these lying sacks of excrement has fallen to a low level even a radical conservative such as this citizen believed impossible.
Which brings me to TV news generally, MSNBC in particular and Mika Brezinski specifically. MSNBC is a veritable plethora of pro-left agitprop (propaganda aimed at causing agitation) while presenting a cornucopia of anti-Constitutional, anti-faith, anti-conservative vitriol.
But back to Ms. Brezinski. With Lawrence O’Donnell, Rachael Maddow and others from which to choose, why Brezinski? Because this old radical conservative still has a memory and vividly recalls the role her father, Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski, played in damaging this country and our national sovereignty for about 11 years (and beyond) when he was an alleged political scientist and geostrategic counselor to Lyndon B. Johnson from 1966–68 and Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor from 1977–81. If YOUR memory is still working and you’re not a confirmed “America Last” leftist, you’ll recall that those periods were almost as disastrous as the 7+ years of obozo.
So, what’s my problem with Zbiggy? Besides his key and early membership in Rockefeller’s globalist council on Foreign Relations, old Zbig spun off the Trilateral Commission which put legs under the thrust to the globalist tyranny now just around the corner as you read this.
What does Zbiggy believe? THIS quote will provide some insight:
“Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers.”
But THIS paragraph should “seal the deal” for any thinking American concerned and puzzled as this country sinks ever deeper into the tyrannical and everywhere FAILED top down, elitist commanded political/economic system called socialism!
After earlier multiple pages telling readers that faith-based religions are passe at best or obsolete at worst, on page 33 of Brezinski’s 1970 book “BETWEEN TWO AGES: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era” we find this.
“That is why Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief: it stresses man’s capacity to shape his material destiny — finite and defined as man’s only reality — and it postulates the absolute capacity of man to truly understand his reality as a point of departure for his active endeavors to shape it. To a greater extent than any previous mode of political thinking, Marxism puts a premium on the systematic and rigorous examination of material reality and on guides to action derived from that examination.”
Now you know why Zbig’s little girl, Mika, is a chip off the old blockhead and is less interested in pursuing the once traditional role of the media to REPORT FACTS than she – and thousands of her clones at the other networks – are in advancing the socialist agenda folks like Zbig and HIS clones in America’s colleges and universities have brain-washed them into believing is the inevitability of their agenda.
And doesn’t everyone want to be on the winning team even if the cost of that victory is freedom, ESPECIALLY if the incipient tyrant promises that you will be nobles in the new regime?
Hitler made that promise to one of his early supporters. His name was Ernst Rohm. Look him up.
Dick Bachert
9/17/2016
Salena just made the jump to New York from Pittsburgh, she is a regular on the John Batchelor Show and is now appearing on Philly Talk Radio fairly regularly.
A down to earth reporter...certainly a rarity.
The media and Washington doesn’t understand Trump’s appeal. A few do, but most don’t.
Which is a different way of saying they are out of touch with mainstream America.
Hillary did NOT win— she just managed to keep from falling over, and the moderator was clearly trying to set up Trump. But Trump kept his cool and didn’t bite.
Trump did fine. The debate was a tie, which is as good as we could hope for, given the situation of everything being anti-Trump.
But the article does make the point that Trump may have won over voters, which is the only thing that really counts.
When Mika says “we”, she means her media colleagues in the New York/Washington axis. They decided Hillary did a better job of presenting herself and liberalism to the American people. And that makes sense to media types who are liberal themselves.
But middle America saw the debate very differently from all the media elitist types.
And the Cubs clearly won the World Series last year, they just didn’t have enough wins over other teams.
Absurd!
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Who is it who said,” Winning isn’t everything. It is the only thing?”
By the only metric that counts voters, Trump won and got the prize. Hillary gets a gold star pasted to her forehead for showing up and not passing out.
SE Cupp that sniveling little rodent is covering her ass so that when President-elect Trump emerges victorious she can claim she was right without offending her liberal clique.
Hillary knew all the answers. She was not questioned about any hard for her topic. A 15-2 questions directed at Trump versus Hillary.
She came across as well rehearsed, scripted, and smarmy. If that’s what America wants... Lord help us.
SE Cupp is one of the CNN panelists... we’ll be seeing her on Nov 8.
I do not believe Hillary was victoripis in the debate.
As I saw it, what she wanted to accomplish was to get under Donald’s skin so he would over react and look foolish to the millions watching.
What Trump wanted to do was to state his positions and contrast them to Hillary in a presidential fashion.
I believe, except for a few occasions, Hillary failed to do what she wanted to do. And she had no substance to ANY policy she tried to talk about.
Donald did interrupt her on a number of occasions, but usually one word retorts like, “Wrong.”
But he did state a number of his positions quite clearly and came across as positive, sure of himself and his ability to do it, and confidant that what he was talking about would be good for America.
One thing he said when Hillary was going on and on was that “Black and Latinos are living in Hell in the inner cities and it is a hell of your (Secretary Clinton’s) making.”
I believe those things resonate with the people.
So, I felt, even though he did not go after the throat of Hillary as much as I personally would have liked to see, that Donald won that debate, and that most Americans came away from it seeing for themselves that Trump is not the idiot or maniac that the DNC and MSM wants to make him out to be.
And almost every single online poll afterwards reflected that sentiment.
She doesn’t want her membership in the gentry class to be revoked.
Don’t say that. He is still behind in the polls. I fear we are being set up. it happens every election.
Hillary won the debate. She is the Queen of Debates. She can spend the next 8 years debating around the world.
Trump won the votes. He is the next President of the United States.
What does "winning" even mean? It's not like they are playing basketball, there is no objective metric to score them. So suppose "winning" means more pundits say you won. Yet we hear more undecided went over to Trump than Hillary yet that's not "winning".
All noise.
I think Trump has a Rope a Dope debate plan.
He allowed Holt to savage him before 88 million viewers, none of which will deny the fact that Holt was partisan. At the beginning of the next debate Trump can recount the facts: moderator interruptions, follow ups, number of questions, etc. and inform the moderators that he will not take it this time. He is here to debate the bitch not the moderator.
This will set Trump up to ignore the gotcha questions, follow ups and interruptions with a “there you go again” as he disembowels the bitch.
It’s certainly set up for Trump if he goes for it.
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