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If Johnson wins New Mexico, election could get thrown to the House of Representatives
538 ^ | 10/02/2016 | Nate Silver

Posted on 10/02/2016 9:58:10 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

Most of the time, Trump would be the beneficiary of a Clinton loss in New Mexico. But the model also assigns Johnson, the Libertarian Party’s presidential nominee, an outside chance — 2 or 3 percent — of winning the state. That could lead to an Electoral College deadlock that looks like this:

... Clinton has 267 electoral votes, Trump has 266, and Johnson has New Mexico’s five. With no candidate possessing an Electoral College majority, the election would go to the House of Representatives, with Clinton, Trump and Johnson all eligible to receive votes.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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Initially 538 added the New Mexico poll to their model as Clinton 45 and Trump 31. Clinton the leader at +14, Adjusted to +12.

I emailed Nate and said that was wrong. It should be 35-31, Clinton the leader at +4, Adjusted then at +2.

They updated their website with 35-31, Clinton the leader at +4, but KEPT adjusted at +4: (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/updates/)

They play games with the "adjusted" number all the time.

1 posted on 10/02/2016 9:58:10 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Johnson won’t win NM. Even if he does, Trump can win without it, it’s not really even on the Trump radar.


2 posted on 10/02/2016 10:01:00 AM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: SpeedyInTexas

It looks far more likely Johnson will hand NM to Trump.

Silver doesn’t mention it because it makes a mess of his 64.3% probability of Hillary getting to the White House.

And he’s lying because if that was true, prospects of the election being thrown to the House Of Representatives are nil.

Last time that happened was in 1824.


3 posted on 10/02/2016 10:01:27 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Jeezy—Talk about trying to sell newspapers.


4 posted on 10/02/2016 10:02:12 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Sad part, if this did happen many GOPe-ers in the House would cross party lines and vote for Hilliary


5 posted on 10/02/2016 10:05:36 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

And monkeys could fly outta my butt........


6 posted on 10/02/2016 10:09:31 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Ignore all media

Get Out The Vote


7 posted on 10/02/2016 10:10:21 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

i have no inside information but it seems extremely unlikely any state would vote for a (crazy left wing) third-party ‘throw away your vote’ candidate like him

but as long as he’s in the race he draws mostly leftwing or D voters away from HilLIARy (including the doper babies)

so that’s good, imho


8 posted on 10/02/2016 10:10:47 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Stuff like this damages Silver’s credibility.


9 posted on 10/02/2016 10:11:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: faithhopecharity

I agree. Johnson gives the NeverTrumps someone to vote for besides Hillary. I doubt he is taking any votes from Trump.


10 posted on 10/02/2016 10:14:42 AM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: Nifster
Ignore all media Get Out The Vote

Yes. To hell with Big Media. To hell with the polls, whatever they say.

We need every vote we can get for Trump.

Trump ==> we have a fighting chance.

Hillary ==> we're screwed.

Get Out The Vote.

11 posted on 10/02/2016 10:15:07 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Trump was winning New Mexico 2 weeks ago:
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=38289
43% Trump
38% Clinton

Johnson isn’t going to win it and will be fortunate to get 20% and I think his range is actually 10-15%


12 posted on 10/02/2016 10:17:13 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Trump Pence! The only choice.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Yeah and if I start defecating gold tomorrow, I’ll be a billionaire next year. Both are of equal likelihood.


13 posted on 10/02/2016 10:18:50 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: qam1

“Sad part, if this did happen many GOPe-ers in the House would cross party lines and vote for Hillary”

How about this. Johnson wins NM. Race thrown to House of Reps.

The GOP gets 10 electors to vote for Paul Ryan instead of Trump. The House has to decide between Hillary, Trump or Ryan.

Or this.

The Dems. find out about the Ryan gambit and do one of their own. They get 100 of Hillary’s electors to vote for Joe Manchin instead of Hillary. Now the House has to choose between Hillary, Trump or Manchin.

What a circus it could be.


14 posted on 10/02/2016 10:33:20 AM PDT by Beernoser
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Two interesting things.

Thing One: What did you spot to make you suggest a correction?

Thing Two: Hard to believe they’d adjust based on the correction of a Deplorable.

Thing Three: (Always a Thing Three) Kudos to you.


15 posted on 10/02/2016 10:37:58 AM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: Beernoser

And remember too, that if an election went to the House of Representatives, each state gets one vote. The members of the House don’t vote as individuals, they vote as part of their state delegation, and the state gets one vote.

It would take 26 states out of 50 states to choose the president if this were to happen.

If the Republicans control at least 26 House delegations as a result of the November elections, that should ensure a GOP victory in the unlikely event of the House having to choose the president. But who knows what would really happen.


16 posted on 10/02/2016 10:38:35 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Mjreagan

The point is that Clinton may not be able to win if she even loses in New Mexico. I think she would loses a one on one race with Johnson.


17 posted on 10/02/2016 10:38:44 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Maybe, I just don’t see a Johnson NM win giving the race to the House.


18 posted on 10/02/2016 10:40:44 AM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: SpeedyInTexas

And if the Dallas Cowboys can score 45 points a game they will win the Super Bowl.

But, Natey, I thought Cankles was a 73% lock to win?


19 posted on 10/02/2016 10:47:25 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Nate Silver comes up with some oddball stuff. ross perot is not going to win NM.


20 posted on 10/02/2016 10:51:47 AM PDT by GregoTX
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