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Like consumers elsewhere, some Californians, particularly those who make too much money to qualify for government subsidies, are seeing substantial premium increases and narrowing networks


You mean working people. 14 million Californians on Medi-Cal means 14 million Hilary voters.

1 posted on 10/07/2016 6:16:51 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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‘Gains in health coverage’

But losses in actual care. This country is at it’s tipping point. California is NOT the model the rest of the States should follow.


2 posted on 10/07/2016 6:19:28 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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They ginned up enough of a socialist spirit to get it not to fail in the ludicrous category.

Of course that, as the greenies like to say, is unsustainable.


3 posted on 10/07/2016 6:20:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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“The state has recorded some of the nation’s most dramatic gains in health coverage since 2013 while building a competitive insurance marketplace that offers consumers enhanced protections from high medical bills.”

Great. Let Mexifornia have its own CommieCare program and abandon the disastrous, unconstitutional “Affordable” Care Act.


4 posted on 10/07/2016 6:21:06 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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Democrat playbook: When the truth is working against you make up some “facts”. Write an article based on these “facts.” Repeat.

This works.


5 posted on 10/07/2016 6:22:04 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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... not to fail NOW.

When the bill appears the potemkin village will be repossessed... with torches & pitchforks


6 posted on 10/07/2016 6:22:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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And now they’re asking that illegals be allowed into the program. Next, they’ll be asking for subsidies for the squatters on Obamacare, giving failing CA another pipeline to the pockets of taxpayers in sane states run by Republican governors. Too bad we can’t kick some of these Democrat states out of the union.


11 posted on 10/07/2016 6:26:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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A Federal program means other states are paying for California via tax payers, not only in California but, in other states.


17 posted on 10/07/2016 6:36:21 AM PDT by Leep (Just say no to half dead hillary and wrong lane kaine!)
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Not in other states but from other states.


21 posted on 10/07/2016 6:37:46 AM PDT by Leep (Just say no to half dead hillary and wrong lane kaine!)
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Didn’t Cali petition to include illegals in the plan?

It’s amazing how they can call a defeat a victory.


22 posted on 10/07/2016 6:38:10 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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With articles like this I usually read the comments more than the op-ed itself. I am gratified to see all the Slimes commenters taking the author to the woodshed for such blatant - and inaccurate propaganda.


23 posted on 10/07/2016 6:38:22 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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But the doctors continue to retire as the government uses tax dollars to pay our medical bills. Best of luck finding a doctor with time to make a difficult differential diagnosis. People are going to start dying en masse before 70, just like in Britain. Accurate diagnosis, the art and science of the doctor, will not be made or it will come when it’s too late. The best medical system in the world brought down in two generations (post-Medicare in the late 60’s).

Think VA for all.


24 posted on 10/07/2016 6:38:40 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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Bill Clinton slams ObamaCare as ‘craziest thing in the world’

By Daniel Halper and Marisa Schultz

October 4, 2016

Bill Clinton has blasted President Obama’s signature piece of legislation — ObamaCare — as “the craziest thing in the world.”

You’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden, 25 million more people have health care, and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half and it’s the craziest thing in the world,” the former president railed at a rally in Michigan on Monday.

Clinton also said the system is hurting moderately successful small businesses — ones that aren’t doing poorly enough to be subsidized and fall just above the line.

“On the other hand, the current system works fine if you’re eligible for Medicaid, if you’re a lower-income working person, if you’re already on Medicare or if you get enough subsidies on a modest income that you can afford your health care,” Clinton said.

“But the people getting killed in this deal are the small-business people and individuals who make just a little bit too much to get any of these subsidies,” he added. ...”

http://nypost.com/2016/10/04/bill-clinton-slams-obamacare-as-craziest-thing-in-the-world/

25 posted on 10/07/2016 6:39:16 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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This is Baghdad Bob level propaganda.
26 posted on 10/07/2016 6:40:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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When the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, I bet many at the Los Angeles Times were severely disappointed when people went in one direction, as opposed to the other.


29 posted on 10/07/2016 6:43:01 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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A friend of mine was just quoted $2500 per month under Covered California. He’s an engineering job shopper, so he isn’t on any employer plan.

That is more then his mortgage, and would basically eat his entire income.

Obamacare are is designed to bankrupt all of us.


30 posted on 10/07/2016 6:45:04 AM PDT by Regulator
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If Obamacare is so Great, shouldn’t ALL of our PUBLIC EMPLOYEES be REQUIRED to Enroll in it??

Why should they be Stuck in these expensive and inferior health plans paid for by the taxpayers??

Don’t our PUBLIC EMPLOYEES deserve the Finest Health Insurance the Government has to offer??


31 posted on 10/07/2016 6:45:46 AM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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It’s working great because it’s frrreeeeeeee!


32 posted on 10/07/2016 6:51:14 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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If Americans won’t revolt over Obamacare they won’t revolt over anything.


33 posted on 10/07/2016 6:52:15 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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The people could collective be on fire, burning like a crisp and these whorespondents would try to tell you why you’re not on fire.

Complicit in treason.


34 posted on 10/07/2016 7:02:40 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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I really hate these apologia for Obamacare. It is malfunctioning in all the ways that sober analysis predicted it would malfunction. All the carrots were made bigger and sweeter, all the sticks were burned and never used.

If you are going to insure everyone, then everyone has to buy insurance, one way or another. You can’t tell millions of people they will be covered if they get sick even if they have no insurance. They will stop paying for insurance.


36 posted on 10/07/2016 7:04:29 AM PDT by babble-on
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