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How Trump’s detractors may have sabotaged their own October Surprise
hotair.com ^ | 10/9/16 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/09/2016 7:10:23 AM PDT by cotton1706

Heading into tonight’s debates the theme for the evening has already been set by the media, along with everyone else who has been hoping that a giant sinkhole would open up and swallow Donald Trump like some sort of low rent Mothra in a budget Godzilla film. This narrative rests on the assumption that the video of Trump’s now infamous Bus Ride with Billy was the straw that broke the camel’s back and “everyone is fleeing the sinking ship.” Over at The Hill they’re keeping a running WHIP list of politicians who are pulling their support for the nominee. Less mentioned is the fact that these are mostly people who opposed Trump from the beginning and only came onboard when he began exceeding expectations in the polls.

So are these The End Days which everyone has been predicting? I wouldn’t be quite so hasty in nailing the coffin shut. Once the initial shock and awe has worn off you may find that those seeking to undermine Trump’s campaign have badly misplayed what could have been a winning hand. If the cable news authorities were going to quote any classic rock lyrics to script this moment it would be Jim Morrison singing about how This Is The End. But while the video was certainly a damaging broadside to the Trump campaign, the way this was handled was very possibly bungled. What could have really been the end of the line for The Donald may have been fumbled to the point where he has a path to recovery. There are three factors which may support this idea that I’d like to cover.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billybush; elections; octobersurprise; trashtrump; trump; trump2016
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To: cotton1706

Just what role did the Bushes play in this? Why would one be recording a private conversations and keeping them for years afterward? Why would they give it to the Hildabeast? (I think we all know that one).


81 posted on 10/09/2016 10:13:31 AM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: niteowl77
"I'll have those ni**ers voting Democrat for the next 100 years!"

There was a comedian that used to use this joke. LBJ saying. Just when I learned to say "Knee ga row" they changed it to black.

82 posted on 10/09/2016 10:26:18 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Robert DeLong

We can’t say the last minute Bush/DWI release didn’t work. That was THE closest election in our lifetimes. Remember Florida? When the election was finally decided by SCOTUS a month later? Sans that release, for all we know, he’d have taken FL beyond any question. All the release needed to do was turn off the approximate number of weak-kneed GOPe who have this weekend withdrawn their support of Trump.


83 posted on 10/09/2016 10:29:54 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Robert DeLong

We can’t say the last minute Bush/DWI release didn’t work. That was THE closest election in our lifetimes. Remember Florida? When the election was finally decided by SCOTUS a month later? Sans that release, for all we know, he’d have taken FL beyond any question. All the release needed to do was turn off the approximate number of weak-kneed GOPe who have this weekend withdrawn their support of Trump.


84 posted on 10/09/2016 10:29:55 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: chimera

Thank you!

Yes, our culture has changed. Liberty bonds, victory gardens, rationing. “Rosie the Riviter”, blackouts and aircraft watchmen. People scrimped and sacrificed to win the war.

During WWII, my dad, as a ten year old boy, would run downstairs every morning to get the newspaper to see what the news from the front was.


85 posted on 10/09/2016 11:05:31 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump, said on 9-28: Hillary 'will put the Oval Office up for sale')
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To: Ouderkirk

Someone said that yesterday on another thread. I’m sorry, don’t remember who.

Liberal women want to fight as equals on the battlefield, then they choose to swoon upon hearing indelicate language.

Can’t have it both ways.


86 posted on 10/09/2016 11:14:11 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump, said on 9-28: Hillary 'will put the Oval Office up for sale')
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To: cotton1706

All the stories about the Clinton’s have been around for a long time, nothing new.

Everyone needs to wake up and realize the Clinton’s are suckering all the Trump supporters into talking about anything except issues that matter.

It is a masterful political move by the Clinton’s to distract from Hillary’s liberal and immoral philosophy that she intends to take to the White House.

Think about it - who is in charge of the debate? Who is setting the agenda? The Clinton’s are using the media to decide what we talk about. FR posts are a perfect example of being led by the nose by them.

Trump needs to convince the undecided to ignore the personal and think about borders, Supreme Court, tax reform, security, and jobs.

That’s it, 5 points, no more. Hammer them home, talk about nothing else.


87 posted on 10/09/2016 11:38:55 AM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State!)
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To: chimera

Just before the attack Hirohito signaled acceptance of the inevitability of war with the U.S. in a haiku,

“If all men are brethren, then why are the winds and the waves restless?”

Back on topic, the 2005 Trump tape was intended for release just before Election Day (28 days!). Not only did the Dems jump the gun but they did so on the eve of a long Federal weekend, dulling its impact and which will have long dissipated by Nov. 8th. Trump will survive and win.


88 posted on 10/09/2016 11:44:12 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Ouderkirk
Women talk even worse. I have overheard several times.

While you are basically the same guy as 11 years ago, does not mean that you haven't altered some views. I mean we basically are the same person our entire lives, yet we change our opinions on a variety of subjects as we learn more information.

89 posted on 10/09/2016 2:13:41 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: EDINVA
In fact Bush did win from the beginning, and probably in reality greater than the numbers reflected. There was most likely a lot of cheating going on by the Democrats. Even during the recounts where they were finding extra ballots.

However, what I meant was that at the final bell, it was Bush.

Now had I said that he made no difference whatsoever... but I didn't.

90 posted on 10/09/2016 2:18:26 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

What I was told by my English teacher (25+ years ago) was that all the other conspirators stabbed Caesar in the back...Brutus was the only one who stabbed him in the front, and was thus recognized.


91 posted on 10/09/2016 2:19:02 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: New Jersey Realist

Like everybody on this earth, I have done things in my life I am not proud of, but I have tried to become a better person and that's why I am now a Republican.


92 posted on 10/09/2016 2:43:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: silverleaf

93 posted on 10/09/2016 2:44:44 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: niteowl77
But hey… at least [LBJ] didn't say something unforgiveable like "I'll have those ni**ers voting Democrat for the next 100 years!"

That's shocking language and your quote is just not true. He actually said "...for the next 200 years!"

94 posted on 10/09/2016 3:15:21 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. --Donald Trump (standing ovation)
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To: bigbob
The audio of LBJ ordering pants is a hoot.

OMG -- I had never even heard of it. Just looked it up and screamed laughing!

YouTube: LBJ's Bunghole Needs Room!

95 posted on 10/09/2016 3:26:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. --Donald Trump (standing ovation)
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To: AndyJackson
Well it takes several days for people to dig through and analyze such an enormous trove of emails to find the gems. So, the release was premature.

So, the Clinton campaign was guilty of premature "release"? Hoo, boy. That's rude, to say the least. Shoulda counted from 100 backwards.

96 posted on 10/09/2016 3:29:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. --Donald Trump (standing ovation)
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To: Albion Wilde
That's shocking language and your quote is just not true. He actually said "...for the next 200 years!"

I stand corrected. Let the truth be known that LBJ's comment on the black voting bloc was TWICE as offensive as I posted.

Mr. niteowl77

97 posted on 10/09/2016 3:40:52 PM PDT by niteowl77 (No Bushes, no Clintons, no fooling around.)
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To: M1903A1

Hmmmn. Interesting interpretation.

(My college drill team rifle was a 1903A3 ... Remember all of its hits and impacts still. Running with it every day.)


98 posted on 10/09/2016 3:47:10 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: cotton1706

The three things listed in the article:

First. Voters want to be informed but they are frequently tuned off by the perception of dirty tricks

Second. Timing is everything and the gun went off in Act I

Third. You’ve set up Trump for the debate to the point where he’d almost have to try to fail to meet expectations


99 posted on 10/09/2016 5:21:44 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Heart of Georgia; AndyTheBear

But Pence saw the trap and backed out of the Ryan event.


100 posted on 10/09/2016 5:25:05 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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