Posted on 10/10/2016 9:40:44 AM PDT by dangus
Look, I'm still voting for Trump. The alternative is just too damned horrifying. And like Churchill said, "Do not hesitate to raise up a flawed man if the circumstances require it."
But consider this: These Trump tapes weren't recently leaked or discovered. The networks have been sitting on them since the primaries. They could've knocked Trump flying back in 2015 if they had wanted to, but they didn't. Can anyone reasonably deny that?
So why didn't they want to? Because they knew they had dirt on him, and they saw him as the easiest way to make sure Clinton was elected president. It's kind of odd how powerful to the "Christian Right" Matt Drudge, the National Enquirer and Milo Yiannopoulos are.
I sure will pray for Trump. He's far from irredeemable. I don't give a crap about "2 Corinthians;" what suggested he was alien to Christianity was his assertion that he had nothing to be forgiven for. Maybe now he understands that he does. I'm very much a big believer in forgiveness and redemption.
I admire that Trump immediately acknowledged and apologized for his conduct on the tape, in contrast to the Clintons conducting weeks-long investigations to figure out how they can limit and spin their crimes.
But at the same time, I believe America needs leaders who can call the nation to renewal and humility before God. But in the meantime, I'll urgently accept the man who holds off Roman or Soviet style persecution.
This is most effective when dealing with the Congress, and state legislatures. Congress has the Constitutional power to reign in a rogue CIC or even a corrupt Supreme Court.
The Legislative branch is the problem, not the President. That is where the focus should be. The Christian Founders set it up that way.
Sanctimonious there...
Actually, neither the US, Canada, UK, France, Italy, etc. were EVER Christian countries. There never has been a Christian country. The best along those lines that we can hope for, is a country governed by God-fearing legislators. That pretty much rules out most, if not all Western countries.
But I am VERY hesitant if the “Christian” is a Mormon. Sorry, but I have come to have a very jaundice eye watching how many times they stabbed me in the back during this election cycle.
Sure, not all Mormons. But I will only take them one at a time. Not in groups. Watch my back.
We need citizens who truly profess to be Christians acting like it.
Be willing to be changed by God, Stand up, Speak up, Teach children, help hold fellow adults accountable, and all the other biblical things many churches have slacked on through the last 50 or so years.
We are a nation who has gone weak and let our pulpits be neutered all for a tax break, worrying about increasing congregation size rather than well rounded teachings and not rocking the boat with people while evil has been slowly and now more rapidly growing like a deadly disease taking over our country.
I think the president is not nearly as important as the nation’s people.
Like God used non believing leaders in the bible and I think constantine was not a believer at first either but was used at that time in history to sustain Christianity from being snuffed out. There are plenty of other leaders and unknown people over time too who stepped up and did right by God without caring what it may cost them. God is looking for any willing person to use mightily.
In many cases it was Believing/Christian people who by example or word touched the hearts of those who got their name in bigger font in the history books, but we are not here for the fame.
It’s God’s glory, that shines through a solid sincere humble Christian and touches the heart/eye of the leader that then the leader does some thing amazingly unthinkable for us, but completely possible with God in it.
we don’t need a Christian president. we need to help each other grow to be fuller Christians and look for opportunities to serve God wherever He asks us to in society.
I preach to myself also :)
Wow! you said more more concisely what I tried to.
We each need more Jesus and to follow His lead.
Thanks :)
I am a Christian, but I’m not silly enough to think that being a Christian qualifies me to be president of US.
The Christian God is wildly good and makes counter-intuitive moves such as choosing a Persian king to protect the Jewish people, chooses a baby to save the world, dies on a cross only to resurrect and defeat evil. Be careful because I believe God is using a secular man to defeat secular leftist.
I think Christians need to stop thinking that the pastoral type makes for an automatic warrior. I see what’s on TV passing for pastors and I’m not impressed.
As a Catholic I know it would be a mortal sin to for Hillary against a pro-life candidate so she would never get my vote but I can’t wait to vote for Trump because of the things he says he will do if president.
Go Donald!!!!!
Don’t get me started, My BIL owned at a bookstore that carried X-rated (not Playboy or even Hustler) stuff. Small town and I know who bought it.
The mayor/devout Baptist was the vendor.
As you say, we are all flawed, it is why we need Jesus.
I made a lot of contributions to a candidate I believe to be a genuine Christian, Rick Santorum. He came in an honorable 2nd or 3rd in the last two presidential primary runs. But had he tried running again, I don't think he would have made it past 5%.
Same thing with Huckabee - not my favorite candidate, but a genuine Christian, and would have made a fine president. He did well in past primaries, but I don't think he would've had a chance this year either.
This year I supported Cruz ... but I think the forces of evil would've crushed him long ago, had he won the nomination instead of Trump.
Trump is still in it, and Trump is the best we've got. We have to hope he will grow in office. I believe he has already shown indications he is capable of this.
It’s in a wikileak. They thought Cruz, Trump or Carson would be as easy to beat as Sanders.
If he has accepted Christ then his sin was taken away; maybe that's the way he understands God's mercy. He needs time and counseling to grow in the faith, to understand that we remain sinners saved by grace.
I personally don’t think letting every one of the 7 Billion people on Earth that can make it to our shores, take up permanent residence in our country is “the Christian” thing to do. Some seem to feel otherwise. They are the problem.
>> I personally don’t think letting every one of the 7 Billion people on Earth that can make it to our shores, take up permanent residence in our country is “the Christian” thing to do. <<
Because that was Cruz’ position? *eyeroll*
Actually it is.
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