Posted on 10/10/2016 12:49:13 PM PDT by PROCON
Eliminating refrigerants known as HFCs could prevent a leap in global warming
After being directed for almost 30 years at substances that destroy ozone, the Montreal Protocol will for the first time target a group of greenhouse gases. Beginning today in Kigali, Rwanda, member states of the United Nations are finalizing the terms of what could be the largest commitment to reducing global warming since the Paris Agreement on climate last December.
Delegates are likely to take till the meeting’s final day on Oct. 14 to hammer out the knotty details of an amendment to the protocol. Ideally, the amendment will set the terms for a rapid phasedown of hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), the most common of which is the refrigerant HFC-134a, which has 1,430 times more warming potential than carbon dioxide (CO2) over 100 yearsThe amendment would stop the manufacture of HFCs and then reduce their use over time.
“An ambitious amendment is the quickest and least expensive way to reduce the effects of climate change,” says Durwood Zaelke, president of the Institute for Governance and Sustainable Development, who has been a mainstay at ozone negotiations since almost the beginning of the 1987 treaty. He says a phasedown could prevent the equivalent of 100 to 200 billion tons of CO2 being released into the atmosphere by 2050. That prevention could avert half a degree Celsius of warming by the end of the century. Considering that the Paris Agreement’s goal is to keep global average temperature rise below 2 degree Celsius, an HFC ban offers a significant opportunity.
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And now a UN body in Rwanda is deciding whether or not HFC's should be banned HERE!
Is DuPont’s patent running out?
A wikileaks out today discusses ways to forward more regs without Congressional approval
It’ll turn the whole world into Rwanda.
You get it, I see...
WTH!
Almost all cars newer than 1994 use HFC-134a (also known as R-134a IIRC). Banning this would require us to use alternatives which are more combustible in a vehicle’s AC system.
Not to mention I just rolled over my weekend toy from R-12 to R-134a and miss R-12 dearly!!
The Globalist/Establishment hypocritical diplomatic immunity modern day Robber Barons have lost their collective minds.
These inbreeds are panicking because they know Trump is winning. So these criminals are never going to quit.
We have to go in through and beyond their twisted message.
Their dreams are our nightmares.
NEVER QUIT!
Nah, just cynical.
More like, regulate it then Tax it
Ban water vapor.
But, I was told I had to use R-134a because R-12 was burning a hole in the ozone?
Are the people fed up with this crap yet?
So that is why John Hanoi Kerry propagandized air conditioning as causing global warming. Lots of money to be made in another change out from our last “safe” refrigerant to something said to be safe although quite costly and bring new patents into making money.
BAN Dihydrogen Monoxide, it’s for the children!
so the third world UN will be the Supreme Court of the World ?
Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds.
Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.
In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).
The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100317023946/http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110308203927/http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change
ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) -- Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.
They either need to ban Dihydrogen monoxide and drink Canada dry or move to Mars.
They could completely solve the greenhouse gas problem if they simply moved toward nuclear power.
Ammonia works well...................
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