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Conway: It's Not Up to Trump Whether Clinton Is Jailed
NBC ^ | October 12, 2016 | Erik Ortiz

Posted on 10/12/2016 1:39:54 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

When Donald Trump threatens to lock up Hillary Clinton if he were president, he's merely "channeling the frustrations of millions of Americans" — and doesn't ultimately have that power, his campaign manager suggested Wednesday.

"It wouldn't be up to him whether or not she goes to jail.That would have to be fully adjudicated through the regular channels like it would be for anyone else," Kellyanne Conway said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; hillary; jail; prison
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To: CMailBag

They twist everything into something it was not. He never said HE would lock her up, he said she’d be in jail. He never attacked a Gold Star family, they attacked him. He never said all Mexicans were rapists. He never said he would keep all Muslims out of the country. Her arguments rest on a throne of lies.


21 posted on 10/12/2016 1:53:31 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: crz

Ford-Nixon. I am old enough to remember it (though increasingly I realize that a lot of people aren’t)


22 posted on 10/12/2016 1:54:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alberta's Child

Nixon was never convicted. Matter of fact, he didnt even face a trial. And that is why that pardon was a crime in itself.


23 posted on 10/12/2016 1:54:25 PM PDT by crz
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To: Buckeye McFrog

True, but I am still wondering if a sitting president can undo the pardons of a previous president . . . presidents are not monarchs so their words should not have the force of the law of the Medes and the Persians. Once their kings ruled something it was, as they say, written in stone.

I have a feeling that the Donald may test this principle.


24 posted on 10/12/2016 1:54:50 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No he cant. Because that is in strict violation of law.

The Nixon/Ford debacle was never fought because the congress figured it was enough that Nixon resigned.

The pardon was a crock of shit and everyone knows it.


25 posted on 10/12/2016 1:56:33 PM PDT by crz
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Nice strawman. He said he would direct his Atty General to appoint a special prosecutor.


26 posted on 10/12/2016 1:56:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

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There is considerable evidence to the effect that a pardon is not valid without a conviction.

IOW, What exactly was pardoned?
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27 posted on 10/12/2016 1:59:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CMailBag
These dumb a$$e$ have absolutely NO sense of humor.

No. These dumb a$$e$ have absolutely NO idea how serious we are about justice wending its way into the life of HRC.

28 posted on 10/12/2016 2:00:54 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (For Hillary: a podium to raise the odium.)
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To: A CA Guy

She’s trying to clear up the usual lefty misconceptions.


29 posted on 10/12/2016 2:00:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Bob

Probably can.

Didn’t Gerald Ford pardon Nixon before Nixon was convicted?

The nation would probably honor the pardon.


30 posted on 10/12/2016 2:01:10 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"I don’t believe that a pardon can be granted without a conviction having occurred.'
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"Ford pardoned Nixon as his first act upon taking office in 1975. At that point Nixon had been convicted of nothing. POTUS can absolutely issue them pre-emptively."
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From Wikipedia:
"After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision which stated that a pardon indicated a presumption of guilt, and that acceptance of a pardon was tantamount to a confession of that guilt"
31 posted on 10/12/2016 2:01:50 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Besides that. I beleieve that Ford issued an immunity for Nixon and everyone called it a pardon. But and immunity from prosecution has to be specific.

They can NOT issue pardons for someone NOT convicted. But Obama might try the immunity route-which would blow the whole works out of the water since he cant issue blanket immunity.


32 posted on 10/12/2016 2:02:01 PM PDT by crz
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To: DesertRhino

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>> “Nice strawman.” <<

We’ll be having quite a large bonfire after this election cycle with all the strawmen we have collected.
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33 posted on 10/12/2016 2:02:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CMailBag

LOL, glad you understood.

If anyone is going to actually lock Clinton up, let it be Sheriff Joe.

If, anything every comes out of all this, Shrill would suddenly become the sickest woman on the planet and plead for mercy.


34 posted on 10/12/2016 2:03:20 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Bob

While I could easily be wrong, I don’t believe that a pardon can be granted without a conviction having occurred.

That is incorrect. Pardons can be issued to remove any possibility of prosecution. Ford pardoned Nixon for any crimes associated with Watergate; Nixon was never prosecuted. Carter pardoned all Vietnam deserters (most of whom were hiding in Canada) allowing them to return to the US without fear of prosecution. Clinton pardoned scores of convicted criminals, but also extended pardons to many of his associates to prevent any prosecution by the Bush administration after Clinton left office. Expect a slew of preemptive pardons from Obama in the waning minutes of his presidency.

35 posted on 10/12/2016 2:04:30 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Good cop, bad cop. Works every time.


36 posted on 10/12/2016 2:06:44 PM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Why not? It worked for the videographer of Bhengazi?


37 posted on 10/12/2016 2:06:56 PM PDT by C210N
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Correct, the only thing a president can’t do (I think) is to pardon someone for a crime they have not yet committed.


38 posted on 10/12/2016 2:07:24 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Trump upped the ante today. He has been saying he would appoint a special prosecutor for the witch, and today he has begun adding that he will add one for the "investigators" too - meaning Lynch and Commie. Have a fair trail, then lock them up and throw away the key. Every day they should thank the Lord God Almighty we did not Ceaușescu or Mussolini them. Then, half the media and her staff should face RICO charges. The corruption needs to stop.
39 posted on 10/12/2016 2:07:29 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Alberta's Child; itsahoot
As I posted elsewhere, Art II, Sect 2 of the Constitution does not allow such a pardon because it does not meet the legal definition. The Ford-Nixon pardon has no legal basis, and only exists because it was not challenged.

It is very much like the threat to take away tax exempt status of churches accused of being involved in political action. No one has been subjected to the threat because everyone knows it would not survive a 1st Amendment challenge.

If Barky pardons Clinton, it is easily challenged and removed. The key is the vacant SCOTUS seat to uphold it.

40 posted on 10/12/2016 2:07:41 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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