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The Regimes “Cyber Action Against Russia” isn’t about Russia
opinion | 10-15-2016 | ShivaFan

Posted on 10/15/2016 12:47:15 PM PDT by ShivaFan

The OBAMA-CLINTON-BUSH plans for an “unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election” has nothing to do with “Russia”.

There is an entire movement, sometimes called advocates for “Open Docs”, or “Full Disclosure” and advocates of open access to public information, around the philosophy that all political donations including those currently illegally practiced but not disclosed, all donations to so-called “foundations” and “charities” linked to politicians and those in political power and office, all meetings between government officials and lobby based organizations or lawyers or corporations or private interests or foreign interests and especially any of those which are requesting access in return for favors or for that matter any advocacy for their own private or foreign interests, and of course any such meetings in which exchanges of money or “donations” or items of value, must be fully documented, recorded both in audio and video and on paper, and fully available and disclosed to the public as freedom of information so as to prevent crony capitalism and special interests and foreign entities influencing the government class and their unelected bureaucrats and to prevent collusions between the government class and private, globalist, foreign interests in pay for play or profitable influence peddling and monetary exchange.

These advocates for “Open Docs”, “Public Freedom of Information” and “Full Disclosure” come from both sides of the spectrum, left or right or in the middle. They also advocate that if the government class is not, and will not, be open and disclose such information to the public which they claim they serve, than it is fair game to discover such information including hacking such information from corrupt government and political agents who are often actually agents of foreign governments or are in corrupt collusion with the corporate media.

Have what you will with your personal feelings about such detective work by advocates for the citizenry to their right to know, most of these are not “Russia” even if Russia was one of the six nations which hacked Hillary Clinton’s private servers and “smart” phones because she is a computer illiterate.

The real purpose of cyber covert action against Russia is not to target Russia, but to target any advocacy of Open Docs and such organizations and persons and to attack the free media that is not part of corporate power structure media in full collusion with a regime, claim they are “Russians” and then hack them, attack them, character assassinate them, threaten their families while data mining them, silence them, criminalize them, and kill them. As well as their families.

For example, they want to hack and criminalize and kill anyone involved with Wikileaks to stop the message and the revelations because it exposes their corruptions, collusion, including with foreign governments and their agents and with corporate and industrial and globalist agents and with corporate media. This is not about stopping foreign influence in elections, it is about continuing and hiding from the public foreign influence in elections as well hiding crony capitalist agendas and influence in the elections by exterminating anyone and anything that exposes their government class collusion with foreign agents and corporate interests, using cyber intelligence to use this intelligence to exterminate any such advocacy and advocates of full disclosure to the public.

For example, they will say Michael Savage is a Russian agent. They will build a case to have him imprisoned. They will say Julian Assange is “Russia”. They will get the information so they can kill him with a drone or by any means necessary so the government class can continue their collusion with foreign governments and agents including Russia if they think it is in their empowerment to do so.

It is like “Fast and Furious”. Take a so-called “legitimate” operation and then purposely put guns in the hands of Mexican cartel in order to say, “see, guns from gun dealers in the US are getting in the hands of the Mexican cartel so we need to take away the citizen’s Second Amendment rights”…

This is nothing to do with Russia. It is about a cyber attack on all of us. We will all soon be surprised to find out that we are “Russia”. Which is convenient also, since the regime wants to go to war with Russia, besides. It does not matter if you are left or right, or in the middle. If you believe in full disclosure for whatever is your politics, you will be declared “Russian” and then the cyber intelligence will be used to plan your total destruction, that of your family, implement this assassination, destruction or death sentence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cyber; regime; russia
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
True. A stupid and arrogant fool like Podesta is an easy cyber target. His password was probably guessable or revealed from other leaked emails. The "hackers" who got in merely had to sync a standard email client to download all his email. There are a few caveats with how they would access in particular they would avoid doing that from Russian, eastern European or (especially) Chinese IP addresses that would tip off Google which undoubtedly keeps blacklists of those. They might even set alarms for important accounts if there are access attempts from those IP ranges. I don't know if they do that, but it would not be difficult to do and they ought to do it.

The upshot is that there was no super Russian "tradecraft" involved. Podesta himself was not "hacked". Nor was Google "hacked" in any real sense. It was a pedestrian login and email sync. It could have most easily been done from Western European or American or Canadian IP address spaces.

Thus you correctly identified the main way our regime will combat it. They will lie about "Russians", they will throw up chaff like leaking obviously incorrect material to discredit the real material. Wikileaks however is not stupid enough to fall for any fake material. Also Wikileaks knows most of their sources although some sources might send material via an anonymizer to avoid being ID'd if Assange gets captured or hacked.

21 posted on 10/16/2016 5:45:44 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: palmer

Bless you for your vigilance and time.

Frankly, I’m more concerned about damage to US communications, but don’t want to be a nag.

FRegards ....


22 posted on 10/16/2016 5:57:52 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: ShivaFan; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
New Chris Crocker video: "LEAVE RUSSIA ALONE!"

PING!

23 posted on 10/16/2016 6:10:39 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables.)
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To: ShivaFan

you omit the crucial fact from your analysis

the current American Cyber Attack on Russia is operating covertly at full strength. It can not be strengthened within the limits of current technology


24 posted on 10/16/2016 6:14:12 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Another thread posted in chat asked what will we do if Hillary wins. I am not a pessimist but I am a realist and the media is going to do their best to make sure she wins. One question is if she wins and further turns over the internet to the globalists and the corporations, what are we going to do about it? I think there’s a lot we can do, but we have to think about how to be most effective under the new regime.


25 posted on 10/16/2016 11:36:32 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: palmer

‘Another thread posted in chat asked what will we do if Hillary wins.’

Having swapped posts with you, I have concluded that you and other ‘tech’ guys are uniquely qualified to tackle any tyrannical threat in unexpected ways.

If Hillary wins, I anticipate the need to get foreign speaking people informed. It would profit us and help get others informed if we learn Spanish. Not joking.

But that’s just for starters.

I myself will try to teach others through fiction. When I was a young man I had assumed that was the only way to reach others, and the internet changed my life strategy. But that is one of my skills.

Your talents probably lie on the tech side. But also consider ‘old school’ communication contingencies. Printers with cheap ink, or maybe instructions for how to make ham radios at home for example. Things like that.

Anticipate the worst case scenario, keep your head down, and let others rush out in the open to see what happens. Plenty cannot resist to charge out and confront enemies head-on.

Be smart. They are volunteering to brave the danger and God bless them. They might not have good plans anyway, so you can evaluate how their actions turn out.


26 posted on 10/16/2016 12:44:49 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: palmer

If Hillary wins some people should join or remain in the military. We would need patriots there.

During Obama our veterans deserved a break. But break time would be over if she wins.


27 posted on 10/16/2016 12:46:49 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: ShivaFan

Agreed. This is all a plot of the Obama/Clinton administration to divert the attention and to discredit the leaks. We need a common enemy but the real enemy are Clinton’s corruption and Obama’s executive orders!


28 posted on 10/17/2016 12:46:07 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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