Posted on 10/21/2016 11:49:18 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
According to the latest reports coming out of Colorado, marijuana is a major cause of homicides in the state, and the problem is only getting worse.
"There is increased crime, sometimes violent crime, associated with legalization of marijuana," Brauchler said. "That's not what you'd expect. You'd expect the harder-core drugs." ... "If cash is the only way to acquire marijuana, crime follows cash," Brauchler said ... Brauchler believes the legalization of marijuana is partly to blame for the rise in crime. "It is easier for there to be black market in a legalized system than there was before," he said.
This all wasn't supposed to happen. The pot legalization advocates told us that legalized marijuana would reduce crime and effectively eliminate the black market. Now we have experienced and respected prosecutors saying they are seeing, firsthand, the exact opposite.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
We obviously need stricter gun control laws. It is the duty of the State to protect citizens against themselves!
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Regards,
A employed non-pothead can figure that out by looking at the thread title.
Am surprised that Mystery Science Theater Three Thousand never riffed it.
Regards,
Personally, when it comes to drugs, I think conservatives have been brainwashed. In 1969 a fairly famous Psychiatrist (from the old school, homosexuality is a disease) published an article that said that if drugs were legal their side effects would be sufficient deterrent to keep most people from abusing them.
I think most Americans have very little knowledge of or experience with these drugs. The truth is Thomas Szaz was right. Let’s look at it. Opiates produce a mild to moderate euphoria for several hours when taken orally. During this time minor pains “become less significant” due to the euphoria more than analgesia. Some pains, for technical reasons GO AWAY COMPLETELY. Which is really, really nice if you are having one of those pains.
The same drug, when abused, is injected. Why? Because the euphoria is INTENSE, orgasmic. But that only lasts minutes or less. Then you have several hours of sedation followed by a fairly rapid onset of INTENSE CRAVING for more. The onset of this effect is stunningly rapid.
Take cocaine. Pretty similar, a couple differences. No need to inject because “snorting” produces the same effect. Very similar if not more intense “rush”. Instead of sedation the experience is characterized more as a sense of “heightened” awareness, sensation, cognition, and perception. An EVEN MORE PROFOUND craving than heroin.
I mention these two because they really are “the killers”. I would submit, as did Szaz almost 50 years ago, that the side effects are a deterrent. Rational, normal people, won’t climb on a hamster wheel of brief periods of euphoria punctuating intervening stretches of suicidal depression. They just won’t. If that life appeals to you you have bigger problems than drugs.
So, even in the case of the real killers, one can make a case, out of compassion, that even these should be legal. Suppressing them is a futile waste as we have seen again and again. Rational people don’t trade productive lives for a hamster wheel of depression. People who are attracted to it can be identified before they have destroyed the lives of everyone they know and either get help or OD. In any case the damage is reduced. The violence, crime, and corruption go away.
As I said, conservatives have been brainwashed into this insane War on Drugs and my position is NOT libertarian, you will please notice.
Let the adverse effects of drugs stand as their own deterrent.
And I'm sure you can prove this?
You want me to prove that auto parts don't cause brain damage?
I was focussing on your statement - which could just as easily have applied to any number of mind-altering recreational drugs which can damage one's health, destroy one's social standing, and wreck one's family.
And also: Implied ad hominem.
Regards,
Why don’t you just look at the thread title? It doesn’t take much time.
A lot of the stuff you find in an ordinary pharmacy causes brain damage, and produces other bad effects. If we told pharmacies they had to deal only in cash they would become crime centers, just like pot dispensaries...
When we repealed prohibition we allowed liquor stores to have bank accounts.
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I am a small-time landlord. My rental contracts specifically say that rent can not be paid in cash. I do not want to be a target for a hold-up.
What do you think your life would be like if every payday you got a wad of cash in a cigar box? Getting home might be just a little dicey. A dispensary gets tens of thousands in cash every day. And, they can't take it to the bank.
Regards,
And herein lies the truth of the matter. The government wants to control you and your thoughts regardless of whether their position is valid or not. A true Libertarian will let you do what you want as long as you don’t injure another. The government’s totalitarian attitude has invalidated so many of their positions (valid or not), that their supposed authority carries no weight anymore. This is what is upending this election. People are tired of being lied to and tired of being coerced and intimidated.
Reading through the comments just reinforces my opinion that normal people really have either no, or seriously uninformed knowledge or experience of drugs. Conservatives have been really sold a bill of goods in regard to this topic.
but, once you legalize dope, there will be no crime and life will be perfect...
Why do you keep responding to yourself instead of responding to the people who you think you are responding to?
More propaganda and brainwashing from Big Pharma and their bought tool, Brauchler. No sale.
As a LEO, I have never been called to a bar fight where everyone was smoking pot. Now there might be an issue at the 7-11 snack aisle, though.
They are continuations of a thought.
Kind of like stream-of-consciousness?
I was being fasciculus.... pot is just bad news all around....it might not be imeadeatly destructive as heroin but long term it is a rot that will destroy society....I can ignore someone breaking the law and smoking pot but I still want it illegal so it does not do the damage that I think legal pot will do.
Life will never be perfect until He returns but the point of conservatism is to utilize rational processes to produce better social results than we are getting by employing current policies that are not working no matter what the issue. The economy, healthcare, whatever. To continue failed policies with emotional appeals to irrational policies is what libtards do. Thatis why we call them libtards.
We really should strive to do better.
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