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1 posted on 10/22/2016 4:23:38 AM PDT by Strategy
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majority of cabins for the 1,690 strong crew are reportedly not supplied with running water.

An Odungo dream come true....community showers


2 posted on 10/22/2016 4:29:50 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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I read this yesterday and laughed.

This is what Obama resorts too. Playground banter.

Russia and Putin’s military force is JV. That’s what they’re saying.


3 posted on 10/22/2016 4:30:02 AM PDT by Fhios ( Globalism is the new Communism - Islamism is the new Fascism.)
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Jut another one of the former Soviet Union’s naval shows of weakness?


4 posted on 10/22/2016 4:33:23 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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LOL. Anyone else reminded of the Battle of Lepanto? Freedom loving Christians overcoming the Muslim horde while the English sat on the sidelines - so Elizabeth I could save her shillings.

Stick a sock in it Brits, you've made yourselves irrelevant.

5 posted on 10/22/2016 4:35:07 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (choo choo)
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I am sure only half of the nuclear weapons they drop on our cities will fail to go off. Obama is so wise to eliminate our fleet, nothing to rust.


6 posted on 10/22/2016 4:35:22 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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I thought it had coal fired boilers.


9 posted on 10/22/2016 4:43:11 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and : domestic")
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The Russians spent $50B on the winter Olympics yet have only one questionable fixed wing AC carrier.


15 posted on 10/22/2016 5:17:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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This story is coming from a paper who’s country currently lacks an active aircraft carrier. Their first will only be commissioned next year.


16 posted on 10/22/2016 5:19:39 AM PDT by jimnm
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You want to see a real sign of weakness? take a look at the continued sorties the Russians flew over ISIS last year.

5600 in 1st 100 days, some 9000 over 5 months. Talk to a maintainer for an idea what we could sustain after an initial surge depending on a lot of set up. I don’t know, but I suspect it is a fraction on a sustained basis.

So they have a pos carrier. Only one. Perhaps they have a different view of power projection that doesn’t depend of naval aviation.


17 posted on 10/22/2016 5:25:57 AM PDT by zek157
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It may be junk but they sure seemed to be kicking ass when they were in Syria. I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving team.


20 posted on 10/22/2016 5:33:13 AM PDT by McGruff (Time for a Tea Party II)
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A lot of people are forgetting that there is at least one known Submarine in this “floatilla”.


30 posted on 10/22/2016 6:33:35 AM PDT by Celerity
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Carriers are almost obsolete for a modern war. Nothing but a big slow target for advanced guided missiles. They’re only useful for ops in turd-world countries.

What weapons WWIII would actually be fought with, we don’t know. But definitely not carriers.

I’d imagine future ships will be small, stealthy and fast. With racks of drones sitting below that can fly out like bees


31 posted on 10/22/2016 6:36:59 AM PDT by varyouga
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Laugh if you want but the Royal Navy is not what it used to be either.


39 posted on 10/22/2016 7:18:13 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Build time: 1982-1990.


41 posted on 10/22/2016 7:18:26 AM PDT by W. (Blue eyed murder in a size five dress...)
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“...........Has Tow Boat In Case It Breaks Down”.

Seems to me if there was a towboat in case it breaks down there would have been a picture of it. I didn’t see any photographs of a towboat in this article.


47 posted on 10/22/2016 7:34:02 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (America IS sick, and tired of the Clintons. It's time to shut them down.)
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The ship even has a tow boat running alongside waiting for it to grind to a stuttering halt.

C'mon, no carrier ever goes anywhere without an escort...< /sarc >

53 posted on 10/22/2016 7:52:14 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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And the Japanese are all near-sighted, so they cannot fight at night; their diet is fish and rice so they are weak and stunted; and because Japanese mothers carried babies on their backs, they wouldn’t make good pilots when they grew up due to no sense of balance. These were common themes the Brits, and others, had of those people - until Dec. 7.

“Those who cannot remember the past . . .”


58 posted on 10/22/2016 8:49:46 AM PDT by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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Ohhh nooo,
This can’t be true.
Putin says he is going to resurrect the Soviet Union and again rule the world.
And Russia is broke.


65 posted on 10/22/2016 9:53:14 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (hey Bill, rape anyone, Lately?)
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Like Bruce Lee said in Enter The Dragon while teaching a pupil, "Never Underestimate Your Opponent!"

Very wise words indeed.

76 posted on 10/22/2016 4:14:39 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Support Trump/Pence in 2016!)
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Just speculation. Running a steam railroad locomotive you would fuel (fire) the boiler at a rate close to the speed or tractive effort required at any given time. Running the boiler hotter would not only mean venting excess steam (a waste of power), but you would also likely have inefficient combustion -excess smoke being a tell tail sign.

The carrier is likely traveling at far less than maximum speed, but with potential enemy ships with just thousands of yards away they would need to ability to meanuver quickly -not waiting to build a full “head of steam”.

So, you might assume that the boilers at running at full capacity, grossly inefficient given the speed required, but excess capacity is lending the ability to go to full speed quickly -without lag time to build more steam. Again, running in that inefficient state it is expelling unburnt gases (inefficient combustion) and likely venting excess steam.

This may well be why the smoke plume looks rediculous.


90 posted on 10/23/2016 7:31:47 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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