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To: Republic_Venom

Describe the purpose and meaning.... if you feel there is no God... outside of your years on this earth... what meaning is there when you die and turn to dust...

In addition, how do you define moral and good thought and action.. why would your thoughts of that meaning be superior to another’s who disagreed... and what right would you having in telling them yours are superior to theirs...

I don’t mean for this to offend... I would just like to understand someone who feels that we are just a random conclusion to chaos and mutation....

Most times I see an atheist faith in science is their god... to believe there is no creation... is to discount the laws of the natural realm...

Simply put... matter cannot be created or destroyed.... so where did the original matter come from that makes up the universe.... It just, and always, was (I think there is a being that describes themselves as such....)?

In addition, the physical realm is governed by unchanging rules.... and laws... how does something that came into existence (from nothing?) have unchanging rules and laws without a designed intent..? What we should see is chaos... not order.....

...and if there are unchanging natural laws.. why would the sentient realm be any different....?

God is unchanging... the same yesterday, as today... .as He will be tomorrow.... He is the beginning and the end... the all encompassing I AM....

Pretty amazing how a book which pertains to outlining who we are and why we are here lines up with the unchanging laws of the universe...

I pray one day you open you heart to your creator,... He is waiting.... just ask Him to show Himself to you..


22 posted on 10/24/2016 9:20:21 AM PDT by PigRigger
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To: PigRigger

Describe the purpose and meaning.... if you feel there is no God... outside of your years on this earth... what meaning is there when you die and turn to dust...

Why do you think you need or require meaning? Why is the sky blue? who cares?
When I die it will be exactly as it was before I was born. I don’t remember being born so I can’t possibly remember the moment I cease to exist.

In addition, how do you define moral and good thought and action.. why would your thoughts of that meaning be superior to another’s who disagreed... and what right would you having in telling them yours are superior to theirs...

No such thing as morality,all of it is cost vs. benefit. Profit vs.loss, both variable perceptions and intensities.

I don’t mean for this to offend... I would just like to understand someone who feels that we are just a random conclusion to chaos and mutation....

Be honest, you WANT it to be offensive so you can justify your “faith”.

Actually we have no possible way to prove our own existence since it is impossible to be objective to it, ALL we can do is tell each other what we have seen or imagined.

Most times I see an atheist faith in science is their god... to believe there is no creation... is to discount the laws of the natural realm...

You confuse what faith and proof is. One cannot have faith if you have one shred of proof. Proof as in being what can be proven by different people and the results being consistent, such as one can agree that table salt tastes salty, therefore if you taste salt you can prove to yourself that it is.

Simply put... matter cannot be created or destroyed.... so where did the original matter come from that makes up the universe.... It just, and always, was (I think there is a being that describes themselves as such....)?

No, that “being” was described by men , who had no proof.

That “matter cannot be created or destroyed “ was described for the first law of thermodynamics, so you are attempting to use scientific observational proof to prove faith! utter insanity!

In addition, the physical realm is governed by unchanging rules.... and laws... how does something that came into existence (from nothing?) have unchanging rules and laws without a designed intent..? What we should see is chaos... not order.....
we do see chaos, and order. order always breaks down towards chaos, with the exception of the thought experiment known as maxwell’s demon. more science.

...and if there are unchanging natural laws.. why would the sentient realm be any different....?

who thinks that it is?

God is unchanging... the same yesterday, as today... .as He will be tomorrow.... He is the beginning and the end... the all encompassing I AM....
SO IS ODIN. there is more proof to him, he says he destroyed the ice giants. have you seen one around?

Pretty amazing how a book which pertains to outlining who we are and why we are here lines up with the unchanging laws of the universe...
you haven’t read the bible.

I pray one day you open you heart to your creator,... He is waiting.... just ask Him to show Himself to you..

I was told my mom and dad created me,I will have to either believe it or not. I’m going with the proof as I have seen others being born as I don’t need faith. praying is as useless as tits on a nun or balls on a priest.

hope this clarifies it for you.


27 posted on 10/24/2016 10:28:36 AM PDT by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO!)
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To: PigRigger

Put simply, I don’t put much (if any) credence into the “visions”, “revelations”, etc. of bronze age men. We’ve come a long way since.


28 posted on 10/24/2016 11:05:14 AM PDT by Republic_Venom (It's time for some Republic Venom!)
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