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Trump lost the popular vote. That doesn’t mean he would have lost a popular-vote election.
washington post ^ | November 14 at 2:05 PM | Aaron Blake

Posted on 11/14/2016 10:33:53 PM PST by RC one

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To: CatOwner

Interesting, the American Thinker article linked above in this thread stated that those usually break heavily Republican. we’ll see, either way the electorial college decides elections and Trump clearly beat Hillary


21 posted on 11/14/2016 11:08:42 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

there have been several false reports of Trump winning the popular vote spread around FR the last few days. Not sure why people do that to themselves.


22 posted on 11/14/2016 11:16:53 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: snarkytart

trump campaigned in san diego and san jose at least.

speaking of san diego, some computer security firm ceo threatened trump’s life a few hours ago

(matt harrigan, packetsled?)

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Matt-Harrigan-PacketSled-CEO-Trump-Threats-401134605.html


23 posted on 11/14/2016 11:20:53 PM PST by SteveH
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To: taxesareforever
Illegals, long dead individuals, and multiple votes probably come up to around twice that number nationwide and it was easy to see in States like Georgia where they held back every area that had a concentrated population where they could be sure there were a great many people who wouldn't vote.

That's the key for them, people who sit at home whether they're registered or not. Those names can be used, sometimes in multiple precincts, to vote and without a very fine combing through of the records after the vote no one is the wiser. There are 100,000 registered or eligible voters, 45,000 of the never bother to vote, so it's no trick at all to come up with twenty five or thirty thousand votes as soon as you know how many you need to make up for the less densely populated areas. As long as they stay under 100% of the total number of voters it's tough to get anyone to look into what happened.

If Trump likes the popular vote idea someone needs to clue him in that there has to be a standard for voting like the ones we demand other countries have before we certify an election there. That is, valid photo ID, purple finger or some other mechanism (someone years ago suggested a place on your Drivers License that would be punched when you vote, whatever) to eliminate multiple votes from a single individual, and a receipt for your vote that has a record of how you voted.

For all the hassle, a piece of paper or a marked (not punched) card is the only way right now that we have to eliminate the BS that has been the bread and butter of the democrat fascist machine for a century now. That's one reason why people who sit at home rather than voting are really doing everyone else harm even though they usually pretend they sit home because it's beneath them to vote for either candidate.

What they're really doing is aiding the vote riggers and IMHo, more often than not, they know damn well that's what they're doing and are happy about it because it gets them some feeble feeling of revenge by.

JMHo

24 posted on 11/14/2016 11:27:41 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Good thing they were mostly in California where their impact couldn’t affect anything.


25 posted on 11/14/2016 11:28:11 PM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: RC one

remove the 3 million illegals and the 4 million dead voters on the ballot and Trump win by miles


26 posted on 11/14/2016 11:42:34 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: RC one
Last I heard the Republicans were beating the Democrats in the National Popular Vote for the House by 3.1 million.

Majority Party: House Republicans Win National 'Popular Vote' By Three Million

So how does it even make sense that Hillary would win the Presidential National Popular vote by 700K.

Who are these several million voters who voted for Hillary and voted for a Republican representative? Seems odd.

27 posted on 11/15/2016 12:34:58 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: RC one
Good thing they were mostly in California where their impact couldn’t affect anything.

That's another reason for the EC. The red states don't have to worry about ballot stuffing in blue states.

28 posted on 11/15/2016 12:36:37 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: RC one

Hillary won an overwhelming majority of votes cast by the illegals, the dead and the brain dead


29 posted on 11/15/2016 12:41:40 AM PST by stormhill
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To: Safrguns

How many votes were flipped from Trump?

People do not really believe that Trump received the same amount of the popular vote as john mccain and less votes than Mitt Romney, do they?


30 posted on 11/15/2016 12:44:34 AM PST by Rebel Egg
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To: RC one

The fact is that just because Trump lost the popular vote last week doesn't mean he would have lost a popular-vote election. What do I mean by that? Basically, losing the popular vote in an electoral-college election isn't the same as losing the popular vote in a popular-vote election. The former involves a very specific strategy that may cost you when it comes to winning the nationwide popular vote. But you pursue that strategy because the latter doesn't matter. You need to get to 270 electoral votes, not a majority or plurality of all votes.

What the author is saying is that Trump could still win in a popular vote election, by changing his strategy. The problem is, that change in strategy is to focus on making promises, offering gifts, and being loved by the high population super-metropolitan centers. The candidates court the big cities and the rest of America becomes fly-over country. And when the election is over, the vast expanse of America that was flyover country ends up footing the bill for the promises made. We become the slaves of the big city dwellers. That is not appealing to me. The popular vote fails because of the influence of the high population centers. If you want to reform the electoral college, how about "one county, one vote"? Now that is a reform I could support.


31 posted on 11/15/2016 1:23:38 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: taxesareforever
If he would have campaigned in California, he would have won by popular vote. But Ca is so screwed up. They live in their own world.

Hillary campaigned by demographics, density and the negative "gimmee" folks.

Trump campaigned hitting on a much broader "positive" base.

32 posted on 11/15/2016 1:31:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: RC one

Deduct the fraud, you corrupt sacks of ****, and we’ll see just who won the popular vote.


33 posted on 11/15/2016 1:35:26 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: SteveH

discussion of “San Diego-Based CEO Apologizes for Social Media Posts Threatening President-Elect Donald Trump” here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3494337/posts


34 posted on 11/15/2016 2:10:49 AM PST by SteveH
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To: RC one

Hillary is winning big in California because of the marijuana ballot initiative that brought all her stoner supporters


35 posted on 11/15/2016 2:12:43 AM PST by ac-rep
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36 posted on 11/15/2016 2:14:06 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: taxesareforever

3 MILLION ILLEGALS VOTED - with instructions from the
current POTUS (BHO) to go vote (for Hillary).


37 posted on 11/15/2016 2:14:12 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: RC one

It’s hard to motivate yourself to vote in California elections if you’re a conservative. Nearly everything and everyone that you vote for gets turned down, time and time again.

That experience would change in a Presidential election without an Electoral College, since the country as a whole tends conservative. I suspect conservatives in CA would come out in droves to vote if that were so. Their votes would make a difference.


38 posted on 11/15/2016 2:23:07 AM PST by rightwingcrazy ("We will not tolerate those who are intolerant of the intolerant.")
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To: RC one

a popular vote election is bad. 2 wolves and a sheep decide what is for dinner.

otoh, the electoral college decided by congressional district (plus the popular vote of a state gets the two senatorial votes) like Maine and Nebraska have might be a more reasonable method.

each state gets to decide how its electors are chosen, that is in the Constitution (not that the Constitution means anything to the left)


39 posted on 11/15/2016 2:24:25 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: RC one

Taking a forest view, as opposed to the tree...

America took a big step backwards in representative republic with the 17th amendment. It fundamentally broke part of the republic.

Abolishing or even tinkering with the electoral college would be another huge breakage of the republic, with bad consequences, known and I’d venture some unknown as well.


40 posted on 11/15/2016 2:35:55 AM PST by C210N
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