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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d think the only problem with that would be

1. they haven’t been charged with a crime and
2. they haven’t been named.


2 posted on 11/15/2016 11:28:00 AM PST by USNA74
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To: USNA74

They have been named:) They self registered for the “dream act” We have a list.


22 posted on 11/15/2016 11:37:37 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: USNA74
I’d think the only problem with that would be

1. they haven’t been charged with a crime and

2. they haven’t been named.

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And, if they were identified to take advantage of such a "pardon", and if the new SCOTUS denied or reversed such an illegal and extraconstitutional "mass pardon",

...then would we not know who they are, where they reside, and where to arrest them?

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24 posted on 11/15/2016 11:38:30 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: USNA74

Exactly. This is a nation with a constitution that makes the INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN king. You can’t pardon a group. You can only pardon a person. And the first thing you need is that person’s name.

Now, you can pass a law that affects all the illegals, but a President can’t do that alone. They’re kinda stuck. :-)


25 posted on 11/15/2016 11:38:45 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: USNA74

It’s legally called amnesty, which is a pardon applied to a whole class of people. It has been used a number of times in American history (especially after the Civil War). Individuals don’t need to be individually named or charged.

Doesn’t matter, as pardon/amnesty is only for crimes during a specified time and does not apply to the day after the pardon/amnesty specifies. An illegal entrant into the US could be deported as usual the day after the pardon.

The only hypothetical advantage MIGHT be that such a person could not be barred from entering the US in the future on the basis of past illegal entry, assuming they could get out of the US without it being officially noticed.


26 posted on 11/15/2016 11:39:57 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: USNA74

One does not have to be charged before one is pardoned, but a group pardon would be on shakier ground

The whole thing is moot anyway, because he could pardon for all crime committed up to this instant, but not for the crime of being here illegally they would commit one instant later.


48 posted on 11/15/2016 3:16:02 PM PST by Strac6 (Sig Sauer, Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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