Posted on 11/28/2016 5:59:48 AM PST by upchuck
The election of Donald Trump as the 45th president of the United States signals the beginning of the end of international climate alarmism.
Trump’s victory has shaken the green movement to its core and will almost certainly lead to the Paris climate agreement’s unraveling. That conclusion, however, is not how most people at the uneventful UN climate confab, which ended in Marrakech last week, saw it. Many speakers, still in a state of shock, denial and anger about Trump’s victory, resorted to wishful thinking and claimed that the president-elect would change his mind about his pledges, or failing that, could not withdraw from the Paris agreement.
French president Francois Hollande stated that Trump has no option. “This Paris agreement is irreversible, no one can get out of it. And even if he could be tempted, there will be forces, amongst them American democracy, who will ensure that it is respected.” UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said the Paris climate agreement “has now become unstoppable.”
During his campaign, Trump repeatedly promised to dismantle most of the U.S. climate legislation and initiatives put forth by the Obama administration. He said he would renegotiate or even “cancel” the Paris agreement, in which the Obama administration pledged to reduce CO2 emissions 26 per cent to 28 per cent below 2005 levels by 2025. Ban Ki-moon, however, said he had spoken to Trump recently and was confident he could be convinced to change his mind.
This kind of naive overconfidence shows a distinct lack of political realism. After all, on the Paris deal, Trump has simply stated the official position of the Republican party. What Ban Ki-moon and other international leaders fail to realize — or prefer not to concede in public — is that the next U.S. president has a triple mandate to reverse Obama’s unilateral climate policies.
Firstly, there are Trump’s election pledges during the campaign. In an interview in May, Trump said that his administration would “renegotiate” the Paris climate agreement. Ten days later, Trump presented a 100-day action plan that included a pledge to cancel it altogether. “We’re going to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement and stop all payments of U.S. tax dollars to U.N. global warming programs.”
Republican position Secondly, most people seem completely unaware that Trump’s stance on reversing Obama’s green policies is fully shared by the Republican party. The party’s election platform, approved at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July, rejects the Paris agreement outright. “We reject the agendas of both the Kyoto Protocol and the Paris Agreement, which represent only the personal commitments of their signatories; no such agreement can be binding upon the United States until it is submitted to and ratified by the Senate.”
Thirdly, the Republican-led Senate has warned international leaders for more than a year that the Senate majority rejects Obama’s Paris deal and that a Republican president would shred it to pieces. Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, has stated in no uncertain terms that the next president would pull the plug. As the Obama administration celebrated its signing of the Paris agreement last year, McConnell said: “The president (Obama) is making promises he can’t keep, writing checks he can’t cash, and stepping over the middle class to take credit for an ‘agreement’ that is subject to being shredded in 13 months.”
In short, Trump has three explicit mandates to reverse Obama’s Paris deal. Moreover, there is little support among the American people for the Paris agreement, and a lot of strong opposition against it...
Submit it to Congress for advice and consent.
BS. It is just an agreement made by a lame-duck {expletive}. There is no law, no agreement that cannot be broken. What are you going to do frenchie, go to war to enforce it? Bring it.
OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?
Pretty good analysis.
I am not sure that President Trump should submit the idiotic plan to the Senate. That would sound like an endorsement of it. Maybe he could submit it while loudly proclaiming the need to discredit and defeat it.
So much concern about an agreement that did absolutely nothing climate-related. Supporters can claim that developed countries committed to some wealth redistribution to developing countries. That’s the only commitment.
Other than that, countries agreed to “set carbon goals for themselves” and “report on goals”.
So what if Obama set some goals without Congress and said they were related to an agreement which wasn’t ratified by Congress. His numbers had nothing to do with the Paris agreement and don’t have any influence on the numbers other countries set. The agreement was not a suicide pact, has no CO2 targets, and has no penalties if one or all countries do nothing.
Trump can set a goal of “The US will not create more than 10x as much CO2 as China in any given year or 1000x as much as the US created in 2005” and still be abiding by the Paris agreement. He can then report every year that we are doing “better” than our goal (by the alarmist definition of “better”) I don’t want to pay $3 billion to developing countries but would love to see him abide by the rest of the Paris agreement and constantly tweet about how the US is honoring the agreement just to show how much of a joke it is.
The agreement is a fraud to let alarmists look like they are doing something and to do some wealth redistribution.
Common sense is also a big reason.
The very undiplomatic question to Mr. Hollande in response would be: "And you would do what exactly, if we did?"
He should absolutely submit it.
That is the Constitutional thing to do.
Trump, FRs, republicans, Conservatives everywhere can know a-priori that the Constitutional process will sort this out, on its way to where it belongs - the ash heap of glowbull climate history.
“M’sieu, you have challenged the honneur of France!! We are not amused! I am dispatching the Foreign Legion to occupy Washington and arrest your Presidente!”
Here’s to the Turtle, the King of the Senate
Said FU to the UN on the Paris Agreement
And on top of that
To Obama he spat
“Your nominee to the Supreme Court? Forget it!”
Hollande is a moron. He is detested by the French people and is the most unpopular president in French history. He is a swelled headed narcissist just like his buddy, Obama. Thank heavens they will soon both be gone from the scene.
Trump should just say NO. The big NO is the most effective and easiest understood of any answer. Effortless too. and VERY cost effective.
Hollande is just trying to grab a few headlines before his unavoidable demise in French politics. He is the most hated of all presidents in French history.
He should absolutely submit it.
That is the Constitutional thing to do.
...............................................I don’t agree. Why legitimize an unconstitutional Obama action by submitting it to the political process and taking up the Senate’s time. Simply Declare it null and void.
But then so many people will keep believing the Paris deal was significant. They need to understand they are being lied to and Trump/republicans are not doing things that will cause the end of the world.
The agreement they love does nothing and Trump can prove it. Logic/reason/facts mean nothing. Trump bragging about how he honored the deal while doing nothing will cause many heads to explode but probably get through to a few.
He would be better occupied to call the pompiers to put out the fires in his own left wing house. He will soon be swept into the ash bin of history. The left in France is in a panic just like the Democrats here. Just a few more months and it will all be over. Fillon or the Front National will be better bedfellows.
You give too much credit to the brainwashed global warming-Climate change morons. There is MUCH to do to straighten out the mess Obama has made of our country. Al Gore’s little band of liars and cheats should simply be told NO! End of story. Let them observe with the passage of time that the world does not end.
What about Marine Le Pen?
A treaty is considered “in-effect” from the time a POTUS signs it till the time Congress votes on it.
By Congress voting on it, and overwhelmingly rejecting it, all in one fell swoop: it digs the trench, completely nails the coffin shut, lowers the coffin, and covers it up.
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