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To: exit82
I'm glad Trump did this. But the hidden costs of keeping these jobs will have to be paid for with:

Federal and State Tax Revenues
Incrementally higher costs for Carrier products

Multiplied by a factor of 1 these will hardly be noticed.
Multiplied by a factor 10,000 your pocket book will start to notice.

Is it worth it?
Maybe. Probably. Most Freepers believe so. Full or at least fuller employment is a benefit to a society that cannot simply be measured in dollar and cents terms.

But a certain benefit of keeping the jobs at home (despite the somewhat higher prices we will pay) is the fun of watching the Dems suffer the angst that results as they watch the Trump political stock grow. And grow. And grow.

It's your bed Dems. You made it. Sweet dreams.

47 posted on 12/01/2016 1:38:57 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: InterceptPoint

The problem with the existing paradigm was that the state was trying to get more and more milk out of a group of fewer and fewer cows.

As greenies say, that is not sustainable.


49 posted on 12/01/2016 1:41:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: InterceptPoint

So you are under the impression Carrier was going to LOWER their price of the Mexican made products? What rube you are. Since when is a tax cut a cost? When did Conservatives go off the rails?


50 posted on 12/01/2016 1:43:19 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: InterceptPoint

“Federal and State Tax Revenues
Incrementally higher costs for Carrier products”

Under GW Bush, taxes went down, but Revenues went up. With lower taxes it is worth it to more people to get into or stay in the game - so the private sector will/should grow.

Probably higher costs due to making stuff in the USA. Of course if there are tariffs on imports - those will have increased costs too. And there is a cost to losing those jobs too. Gov’t has to take care of more people as they are out of jobs, etc., which raises our taxes.

And the general decay and “malaise” (to use a Reagan term about the Carter years iirc) that joblessness creates. Look at Detroit where all the automakers left and imagine a USA like that. Why would anyone want to go to Detroit (or the USA) to start a company?

I know that the high-tech and white collar stuff will still support a lot of American jobs. But I think the nuts and bolts industries need to make a comeback to give us a more balanced economy.

As with regard to the Carrier “deal” - I would agree that it isn’t the best to be making individual deals with companies (crony capitalism). I’m pretty sure that isn’t Trump’s plan - it will be an all inclusive plan with lower taxes, less restrictive regulations, etc.


132 posted on 12/01/2016 3:02:38 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: InterceptPoint
Bottom line: Businesses pay NO taxes.

It is a mere cost of doing business and is PASSED on to the ultimate consumer as a higher cost of the final production.

170 posted on 12/01/2016 5:06:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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