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The Unpopular Truth About The Popular Vote
Townhall.com ^ | December 4, 2016 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 12/04/2016 10:06:35 AM PST by Kaslin

Just like the “recount” is a naked attempt to discredit Trump’s victory, this “smart take” is a deliberate deception designed to keep the unshowered angry.

The Nation magazine put it this way, “The preliminary count had Democratic Senate candidates gathering 46.2 million votes to 39.3 million for Republican candidates.” That and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee from the aforementioned unshowered, probably with earlobes stretched to the size of Frisbees and an impromptu lecture on the “justice” of fair trade coffee beans.

But it’s a fraud.

Those numbers aren’t a lie, per se, but how the left is using them is, just like how it is using the presidential popular vote.

In California now, all candidates run in the same primary, and the top two vote-getters advance to the runoff unless one receives more than 50 percent of the vote. Thanks to total Democratic Party control, both candidates for the open Senate seat were Democrats. So Democrats got all the votes in California’s Senate race.

Meanwhile, Texas, which has a large population and generally votes Republican, did not have a Senate race this year. So millions of votes that could have gone to Republican Senate candidates didn’t because there was no election for them to vote in.

In fact, several solidly Republican states or states Republicans stand a good chance of winning didn’t have Senate elections in 2016.

When you choose the unit of measure by which you determine success you will always come out ahead. That’s what Democrats are doing here.

In this year’s World Series, the Chicago Cubs won the title 4 games to 3. But both the Cubs and Cleveland Indians scored 27 runs in the seven games. Applying the argument liberals are using, there needs to be an eighth game, or at least more innings added to game 7 with the winner being whichever team scores the next run.

That doesn’t make any sense, and neither does arguing about the popular vote for president or in regards to Congress. The rules were the rules, and campaigns were run under those rules, deliberately.

This won’t stop the unshowered and uneducated. Their ignorance inoculates them from such realities. But it doesn’t excuse the showered and educated who should, and do, know better.

The political class is doing all it can to hurt the incoming Republican government; to discredit it before anyone takes their oaths of office. C-list celebrities have even taken to social media to promote a meaningless online petition to “pressure” Trump electors to switch their votes to Hillary (and avoid keeping their word to leave the country). Many of the great unwashed have even taken to threatening the lives of Trump electors, which is illegal but of no interest to the current Justice Department. Unable to win at the ballot box, these are the tactics they’ve chosen. It’s who they are.

Outside of their enclaves, Democrats have little appeal. They can’t win under the rules, so they do what they always do – ignore them. Be it through a bogus recount trying to deny enough Electoral College electors for Trump to reach 270 votes (he’d still win without them from the three states the Greens and Clinton are challenging, it would just empower Democrats to claim he didn’t have 270, or the widely known “majority”), or the “we won more votes” congressional nonsense. Democrats have never lost well.

You’d think they’d be used to it by now. If they haven’t and they continue down this path, the American people will continue to give them ample opportunity to.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; electoralcollege; hillaryrottenclinton; jillstein
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To: sima_yi

California state Presidential Results Tbl - Dec. 1, 2016"

Candidate Votes Percent
Hillary Clinton
(Party: DEM)
8,581,312
62.3%
Donald J. Trump
(Party: REP, AI)
4,393,409
31.9%
Jill Stein
(Party: GRN)
271,225
2.0%
Gary Johnson
(Party: LIB)
467,731
3.4%
Gloria Estela La Riva
(Party: P&F)
64,273
0.5%

Final certified results are due to the Secretary of State for presidential electors on
December 6, 2016, and all other state contests on December 9, 2016. The Secretary of
State will certify the statewide results by December 16, 2016.

21 posted on 12/04/2016 11:01:50 AM PST by deport
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To: Kaslin

The faux stats about the senatorial races implies that the only fair way would be to tally up all the votes for senators and then divvy them up throughout the country so that the voters in California would be able to pick the senators in Idaho.


22 posted on 12/04/2016 11:26:41 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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To: goldstategop

California. That is all. DJT was ahead in the popular vote all night up until Cali reported. I’m not going to say most of the Cali votes are from illegals, but a lot had to be because the Cali DMV hands them ID’s and driver license and that is where you register to vote.
That state has went from red to deep blue in just 22 years due to the globalist establishment flooding the state with illegals.


23 posted on 12/04/2016 11:28:36 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: deport

DJT got killed in Cali. Worse than any Republican that I can remember, but he was spending his own money and was smart not to go to Cali during the presidential campaign. I mean, he could’ve campaigned there in the more conservative areas and got 40% of Cali’s popular vote vs 31% which would have helped him in the over all popular vote, but why bother?
He ran to win the EC not the popular vote, and in the end you can lose Cali with 31% or lose with 40%, but as a Republican candidate you’re still losing, and not getting the 55 EV you need to win the Presidency.


24 posted on 12/04/2016 11:36:01 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Kaslin

The factoid that is most interesting is that the rural vote for Trump canceled the minority votes for Hillary. Granted, the Black vote did not turn out in the overwhelming numbers that they did for Obama, but still interesting that the geniuses who never gave a thought to farmers, ranchers and small town dwellers should have.


25 posted on 12/04/2016 11:41:50 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Kaslin
Trump won 3,084 of 3,151 counties in the U.S. Hillary only won 57.

Trump's Geographic Landslide

 photo County_landslide_zpsuno5t6vq.png

26 posted on 12/04/2016 12:15:42 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: snarkytart

One interesting tidbit to me is Clinton won the national popular vote by some 2.5 million votes.
She won the Los Angeles County popular vote by some 1.5 million votes. So one county
gave her well over 50% of her total national popular vote win.

I know that the popular vote isn’t how the President is elected but still I found that interesting.


27 posted on 12/04/2016 1:30:35 PM PST by deport
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To: Kaslin

In this year’s World Series, the Chicago Cubs won the title 4 games to 3. But both the Cubs and Cleveland Indians scored 27 runs in the seven games. Applying the argument liberals are using, there needs to be an eighth game, or at least more innings added to game 7 with the winner being whichever team scores the next run.


By this same argument, the Yankees should have been declared the winners of the 1960 World Series. They scored 55 runs while the Pirates scored only 27 runs. But the Pirates won four games on Bill Mazeroski’s 9th inning home run in game 7.


28 posted on 12/04/2016 3:08:51 PM PST by rwa265
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To: HotHunt

One can drive from sea to shining sea without going through a county that went for Clinton.


29 posted on 12/04/2016 3:16:45 PM PST by rwa265
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To: bigbob
Hillary's popular vote margin rests on four counties:

New York County: +456 546
Kings County: +461 433
Los Angeles County: +1 273 485
Cook County: +1 088 369

This adds up to +3 279 833, which is another way of saying that, outside of these four counties, Trump leads by three quarters of a million votes.

A better argument for the electoral college is hard to imagine.

30 posted on 12/04/2016 6:14:20 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: snarkytart; Jim Robinson

I have a question for you Californians. I have visited your beautiful state frequently since 1966, for business and for pleasure. I’ve observed many changes in that time.

Is it really illegal aliens that have transformed you?

The reason I ask is that, it seems to me that a lot of things that have happened are more Marin County than Matamoros. Everywhere you go, there are signs about the dangers of cancer in the air. Every hotel tries to beat you out of clean towels because they are saving the planet. The ballot initiatives on ammunition, gun control, environmentalism, etc - excuse me, but mestizos don’t give a sh*t about any of that.

I know they are a burden on the taxpayer, and they make the quality of life deteriorate where they congregate - but are they actually running the show?


31 posted on 12/04/2016 6:25:28 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: HotHunt

Actually the count was 2,623 in favor of Trump and 489 in favor of Clinton. Still this was the largest number of counties carried by Presidential candidate since Reafan’s 1984 landslide.

H/T http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/


32 posted on 12/04/2016 10:59:08 PM PST by princeofdarkness (Leftists. Their only response to failure is to double down.)
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To: HotHunt

Actually the count was 2,623 in favor of Trump and 489 in favor of Clinton. Still this was the largest number of counties carried by a Presidential candidate since Reagan’s 1984 landslide.

H/T http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/


33 posted on 12/04/2016 11:01:37 PM PST by princeofdarkness (Leftists. Their only response to failure is to double down.)
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To: Kaslin

A state Senator from Wisconsin, says that if they don’t finsish the recount in time to certify the votes before December 19th, Wisconsins electoral votes will not be counted. Is that the same for MI and PA, if they don’t finish the recount in time to “certify” the states votes, they are not included in the electoral count?


34 posted on 12/05/2016 7:04:18 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Kaslin

Without California, Trump wins the popular vote by 879,761 and the electoral college 306-177.

THIS is why we need the electoral college. California makes a huge difference in one direction.

One thing the press won’t tell you is from 2000 to 2004, 2004 to 2008 and 2008 to 2012, Los Angeles County had an increase of approximately 20,000 (I believe the highest was about 25000, lowest 16000). From 2012 to 2016, they had an increase of 760,000. This was due to their new laws that allowed illegals to get drivers licenses. The DMV said in the article about it that they would not turn over the registration forms to the SoS office for verification (they just pushed the data in from a computer push, but not officially submitting the forms) until the SoS office came up with a plan to handle to registrations properly. CLEAR evidence of MASSIVE voter fraud, but let’s just let that go. Right? I mean, there’s never been real voter fraud, according to Obama.


35 posted on 12/05/2016 10:04:17 AM PST by spacewarp (FreeRepublic, Rush's show prep since foundation.)
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