Posted on 12/04/2016 10:06:35 AM PST by Kaslin
The key is the supreme court! I pray president Trump can rein in the turtle and his ilk.
Trump would have won more popular votes if Red states had Senate races - well IN did have one and institution Bayh was beaten soundly.
Democrats harp the fact their candidates got more votes. Big deal.
At the end of the day, they lost and they’re in the minority.
In other words, Hillary! won the popular vote in CA, and Trump won the overall popular vote in the other 49 (or is it 56) states.
They also have low turnout during the midterm elections, or at least it appears to be that way.
The U.S. Constitution specifically gives state legislatures the authority to determine how their presidential electors are determined. Every state has had a "popular vote" to select these electors for nearly 100 years, but it wasn't always done this way. More importantly, it doesn't always have to be done this way in the future.
I wish one state would change its method of determining its electors to something other than a popular vote -- just to put this stupid conversation about a "national popular vote" to rest.
Great article, with equally great followups here on FR.
The genius of the Founders continues to amaze, even though the things they feared aren’t the same as what we fear today. But in their quest to guard against a king-like ruler (or an ignorant population) they took the concept of a representative republic and applied it to choosing the chief executive.
The 538 ensures the inherent fairness of giving each of the states an equal voice. But democrats and liberals have always struggled with the notion that this is a constitutional republic, not a democracy, and have always been willing to contort the definition of “fairness” to suit their needs (i.e. until they win).
That’s a great synopsis, and totally illustrates why we need an electoral college. Without it, obviously every election would be decided by cities in the Northeast and the West Coast, with a contribution by Chicago.
I’ve also read (although I can’t find the citation) where some votes remain uncounted in CA (absentee?) because even if all went to Trump it wouldn’t change the outcome and Hillary would still win. However those votes would increase Trumps share of the popular vote. No real point in doing so other than this ongoing “contest”.
Have any alleged "news" peeps inquired as to why Mr. Comey hasn't looked into these allegations? Sounds as though it's ultra high priority to any reasonable observer, n'est ce pas?
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I remember election night. All the networks kept talking about Trump didn’t have a way to 62mm votes. None. Hillary was on her way to 65MM and a sure landslide. They all called the election right.
Oh wait a minute I remember Martha Raddatz crying when Trump got to 270. I wondered why she was crying. He had no way to get to 65mm votes. I am confused.
Heard this from a sports player on TV: “Yeah. You won the popular vote. That’s like getting your ass kicked in football but complaining that you won the most yardage.”
Hm?....Hadn’t thought of it that way. Good point!
They still have to count those ballots because there are a lot of other state and local elections down the ticket that may be much closer than the presidential election.
I thought this was the case, but I went looking for a citation. All I'm finding is the same claim by many people, but no one actually citing the policy/law.
Digging around on CA's Secretary of State website, I would say that it's probably not true. My reason: CA law requires that a method be provided for the voter to confirm that their absentee (vote-by-mail) or provisional ballot was counted. If it isn't, they have the right to contest it.
“Trump would have won more popular votes if Red states had Senate races - well IN did have one and institution Bayh was beaten soundly.”
Get rid of LA county and Trump won the popular vote.
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