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Japanese leader Abe won't apologize at Pearl Harbor
foxnews.com ^ | 12/6/16 | ap

Posted on 12/06/2016 2:07:11 PM PST by ColdOne

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Pearl Harbor survivor marks 75 years since attack

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe won't apologize for Japan's attack when he visits the U.S. naval base at Pearl Harbor later this month, the government spokesman said Tuesday.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said that "the purpose of the upcoming visit is to pay respects for the war dead and not to offer an apology."

Abe announced late Monday that he would have a summit meeting with President Barack Obama in Hawaii and visit Pearl Harbor. He will be the first Japanese leader to go to the site of the Japanese attack that propelled the United States into World War II.

The unexpected announcement came two days before the 75th anniversary of the attack and six months after Obama became the first sitting American president to visit Hiroshima for victims of the U.S. atomic bombing of that city at the end of the same war.|

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: japs; shinzoabe; sneakattack; ww2
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To: jdege

I think the Japanese treatment of allied POWs (beheaded at whim and worked to death) during WW2 is much more noteworthy than their very limited or “feeble” attack on Pearl Harbor. The latter mostly damaged battleships and some infrastructure (naval base) in Hawaii.

Number of deaths by Jap attacks on Pearl Harbor is said to be around 1200. The atomic bomb on Hiroshima/Nagasaki is said to have killed around 128,000, mostly civilians. Numbers according to Wiki.

Anyhow, President Reagan did the right thing by signing the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 American citizens of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during WW2.


41 posted on 12/06/2016 3:41:30 PM PST by odds
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To: WashingtonFire

I’m fine with it. We haven’t apologized for nuking them and I don’t imagine we ever will. we’re even Steven as far as I’m concerned.


42 posted on 12/06/2016 3:44:40 PM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said.


43 posted on 12/06/2016 3:46:51 PM PST by Gator113 (~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~ LOCK HER UP ~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~)
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To: dware

“What next, descendants of slave holders apologizing? That’s a lot of democrat apology, right there. “

Yup. Legitimize apologies for ancient wrongs, why? Repairations!


44 posted on 12/06/2016 3:47:46 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: bigdaddy45

I apologize to all of the slaves that my country bombed and murdered in 1945. You happy?

Did I say that an apology would change anything? No. I said one is owed.


45 posted on 12/06/2016 3:54:25 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: ColdOne

Obama will probably apologize. Obama is a swine.


46 posted on 12/06/2016 4:06:02 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: WashingtonFire

To be fair we hit them back quite hard. Tenfold or more, I’m leaning towards more.


47 posted on 12/06/2016 4:12:50 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: ColdOne

“...Japanese leader Abe won’t apologize ...”

Nor should he. Neither he nor his administration had anything to do with it. The people who started that war, planned and plotted and carried out the attack are long dead. Yamamoto, who planned it, was ambushed in the skies over Bouganville and shot down in a very PERSONAL hit.

They’ve become an Ally over the decades. What’s done is done.

And I say this as someone who’s uncles were in the Pacific fighting them; my father lost a 22 year old cousin on Iwo Jima, and came very close to losing his older brother on Okinawa.

If anything, I’d like to see him say a prayer for the dead, and a prayer for peace so that modern day insane assh*les who’d like to emulate Tojo, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc., NEVER get the opportunity to start another war like that Hell on Earth.

Let the Dead rest in Peace. They paid for our today by giving up their tomorrows back in 1941-1945.


48 posted on 12/06/2016 4:44:47 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ColdOne

Well if I was Japanese I would Express regret what it did end up costing to my own country ...clearly ended up being a bad decision for Japan


49 posted on 12/06/2016 4:52:38 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: ColdOne

Why would he. Was he there? Did he abet the decision to attack? Is he Obama?


50 posted on 12/06/2016 5:22:42 PM PST by stevem
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To: ColdOne

“It seemed like a good idea at the time.”


51 posted on 12/06/2016 5:45:12 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Lock. Them. Up.)
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To: ColdOne
Several Japanese Prime Ministers have apologized for their aggression during WWII, including the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I don't think another is necessary. Japan is not an enemy of the United States. Time to let bygones be bygones and move on from it. I don't know how old Abe is, but I seriously doubt he was of age to have taken part in WWII.

Again, Japan is not an enemy of our country. Time to stop slapping them in the face it. We kicked their ass when they needed it, and I think that as a nation we can move on while recognizing that there are Americans with justifiably strong feelings about it.

52 posted on 12/06/2016 6:24:34 PM PST by zeugma (I'm going to get fat from all this schadenfreude)
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To: ColdOne; All
There are many here who say that the past is the past and there is no need to apologize.

I beg to differ. WWII was the last time we were allowed to fight a war to win. 70 years later, there is still the discussion if our then adversary should apologize.

This is the way it should be. That is what true victory looks like.

If you f#ck with us [in the words of Mattis - our soon to be SecDef] "The survivors will write about what we do here for the next 10,000 years."

And, for the next 10,000 years they should be ever sorrowful, apologetic, and fearful that we will tire of their existence and wipe out the last remaining male remnants with extreme violence, and breed it out with their women.

Perhaps if we fought that way in the post-WWII era we wouldn't be worried about the next "lone-wolf" attack in a U.S. shopping mall because all the would-be lone wolves would be wondering what would remain of their moon rock after a 30 megaton nuke was detonated on it. They would also wonder if the napalm would be compassionate enough that they could identify the ashes of anyone in their tribe.

53 posted on 12/06/2016 6:50:46 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: Owen
Nothing really to apologize for. In August 1941, FDR cut them off from oil. He had probably moral reasons, but nonetheless, he cut them off from civilization’s lifeblood (the US was the Saudi Arabia of that time, big oil exporter). His military said . . . the only place to get oil is Indonesia and for us to do that, the US Pacific Fleet must be neutralized.

Ah, so this is the reason Japs killed 20 million chinese. They needed oil. Presumably it's also the reason they vivisected prisoners. They needed oil. American airmen were vivisected at a Japanese medical school. This latter event proves that even Japan's finest, such as their med students and doctors, were sick in the head.

54 posted on 12/06/2016 8:09:44 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: zeugma
Several Japanese Prime Ministers have apologized for their aggression during WWII, including the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I don't think another is necessary. Japan is not an enemy of the United States. Time to let bygones be bygones and move on from it.

Post-war Japan elected a war criminal as prime minister, just to show you how Japs really feel behind the nebulous apologies crafted for dumb gaijin.

55 posted on 12/06/2016 8:12:53 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

China’s oil is in the northwest. What was Manchuria. Yup, that’s why they went there.


56 posted on 12/06/2016 8:34:51 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
China’s oil is in the northwest. What was Manchuria. Yup, that’s why they went there.

That's why they killed 20 million chinese? That's why they experimented on Chinese and koreans and vivisected them? That's why they raped Nanking? Because FDR made them look for oil?

57 posted on 12/06/2016 8:51:16 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Don’t think you have caught the point.

The oil embargo was to stop their conquering of China.

Much like the US in the 1970s, a decision was made that no embargo of oil was going to dictate national policy, so they did not stop their empire building, but instead sought additional oil.

It’s fun to think religion or morality or whatever decides wars since 1900 or so, but it’s oil. Pretty much it’s always oil. View things thru a prism of oil and you’ll understand.


58 posted on 12/06/2016 8:56:50 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
The oil embargo

So that's why the Japs committed all those atrocities. It was because of the American oil embargo. Maybe America should apologize to the Japs.

59 posted on 12/06/2016 8:59:46 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

There is no such thing as atrocity.

There are only winners or losers. If the Japs had won, history books would be filled with American atrocities.


60 posted on 12/06/2016 9:03:21 PM PST by Owen
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