Posted on 12/07/2016 1:10:16 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
Since we do not have equivalent hell holes, the press has to pretend we do.
It is accepted that the American medical and military communities benefitted from the findings of the Japanese and German experiments on live prisoners.
Morally, we never could have conducted those experiments themselves.
Example: Germans froze Russian POWs in ice water, and took meticulous notes. We used that info after the war to assess pilot survivability.
It’s amazing but in fact he is correct:
Unit 731 was evil on the scale of the Third Reich but an accident of History saved most of the men from prosecution.
Unit 731 accumulated a lot of medical data about biowarfare and at the close of World War II the growing American fear was what might happen on the Korean Peninsula:
An evil bargain was struck; the US received all of Unit 731’s biowarfare data and the Japanese culprits went almost completely free.
Many of the Unit’s top officers went on to become huge capitalists, Millionaires and in the case of one, a prime minister.
I understand the value of live experiments...
The part of his post I though was strange is “mostly forgiven”
A better word might be “overlooked”
In my book live human experiments can never be forgiven...
Remember when Abu Ghraib dominated the news? Some dumb Guardsmen made prisoners pose with sheets on their heads. Oh, the humanity.
Tell the lefties about this the next time they try to say we were such savages for dropping atomic weapons. Let’s see them try to defend it.
See post # 64
IIRC, there is still a strain of cholera created by unit 731 that is still active in China.
Another memory from reading somewhere is that the Japanese leader of the Chinese occupation was a corrupt, drug addicted SOB who ordered cigarettes to be laced with opium in order to addict the population.
Millions were addicted and the money they paid for the drug was used to fund the war effort. (after being skimmed off by the Japanese leaders in China.)
I salute your brave father.
“Then my Christian upbringing kicks in and I relent.”
One of the most amazing parts of Louie Zamperini’s story for me was the part where after the bomb had been dropped and the Japanese finally surrender the guards run away and the prisoners are liberated but have nowhere to go. They manage to signal passing U.S. planes who then drop loads of food and supplies. And after all of the cruelty,torture,and sadism they have been subject to at the hands of the Japanese, some of the prisoners collect food and bring it to the village to give to the starving people. That to me is astounding faith and character. I will never forget Pearl Harbor and never forget what a great country America is because of her people.
I think flame throwers would be very effective in the urban fighting we do now in the ME. Something to bring back.
Stories like this is why I have no regrets we dropped the Bomb. We bombed them to reality.
Goo would have looked like paradise by comparison
The USMC requested them in the Battle of Fallujah, but were rebuffed.
They made do with what they could, and in one encounter where the Iraqis had turned a concrete house into a pillbox, and multiple Marines were killed or wounded there, they shot holes in a tank of cooking or heating fuel on top of the house, let it drain into the house, then set it afire and listened impassively (and with some satisfaction because of their dead buddies) as the terrorists inside screamed and were consumed.
It’s no different today. Any honest look at what the US has done around the globe over the past 25 years would show that this country is following directly in the footsteps of the Nazis and Imperial Japanese.
We are so far from civilized today, that not only is torture considered a reasonably debatable proposal, but it’s actually been national policy for a long time now.
The idea that it can’t happen here - especially when we’re right in the middle of it - is a common but almost always wrong illusion.
We’re still pretending that there aren’t medical experiments being performed on human beings at that black site in Guantanamo, so shhh.
A Town Like Alice is my favorite book of all time. I have made all my children read it as well as a number of friends. The beginning is very tough as it is during the Bataan death march and you feel like it’s going to be a horribly depressing book but that all changes and it is tremendously uplifting. Such a wonderful story!
McArthur went over there, and left them off. Thousands of people killed all over them attacking us. Had to be the dumbest of all wars, next to our civil war.
I think what I like about Trump, is that he understands, that you need one big guy on every block who keeps the peace. You will never need to go to war, if there is one guy who will keep things from getting out of hand. Ideally it’s an army of robots.
Until then, the big guy on the block is us. We keep the peace. WE keep the petty bullies like Iran and N. Korea from starting a major out break.
I can’t imagine that China wants to go to war with us. Russia too.
I feel that way when I listen to Japanophiles make excuses and ridiculous rationalizations for the Japs' reluctance to admit to any wrong-doing.
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