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LIVE: Arpaio Says He Has New Info on Obama Birth Certificate - LIVE ANNOUNCEMENT This Afternoon
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Posted on 12/15/2016 11:14:42 AM PST by GonzoII

Brought to you by Desert Diamond: http://ddcaz.com Sheriff Joe Arpaio Press Conference on Obama Birth Certificate to be streamed LIVE this afternoon.

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KEYWORDS: arpaio; bc; birthcertificate; boguspotus; certifigate; fauxpotus; naturalborncitizen; nbc; nothingburger; photoshop; sheriffjoearpaio; usurper
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To: Fantasywriter
If Charllette could find Mary, why couldn’t someone else?

Because no one else had a motive or a reason to look, Charlette ran across the name OBAMA in the Seattle directory, because checking out old listings for the rich/famous/infamous was part of her business. The Seattle library apparently had one copy of each, the Polk and the Reverse Directory. By the time someone from the freeper brigade went there, only one person had used those directories in recent times...we assume that person was Charlette.

ANN S OBAMA is a name listed in the Hawaii Polk.

ANNA OBAMA is a name listed in the Seattle directories.

STANLEY ANN DUNHAM is the person who changed her name to

ANN DUNHAM OBAMA on her Social Security in January 1963 What name she used when she returned to the university in Hawaii in Spring 1963 is not known.

STANLEY ANN DUNHAM is a name on the letter from the University of Manoa.

OBAMA Stanley Ann Dunham is what you see on the University of Washington material sent to Corsi by email.

361 posted on 12/19/2016 3:38:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

‘ANNA OBAMA is a name listed in the Seattle directories’

The very moment I left home and settled into college in another state, I changed my name to a variant of the original. It doesn’t surprise me that SA did the same.

I already mentioned my Ann/Anna/Ann college roommate. As I said, she reverted to her original name after a while. But she did insist on Anna during a certain phase. It’s not unusual.


362 posted on 12/19/2016 3:46:52 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
...UoW would not have lied/committed academic fraud to discredit Obama/make a laughingstock out of Dreams. Had they been willing to lie, it would have been to help obama, not to destroy the underpinnings of his political career.

There's been nothing to show that the material provided to Corsi by email did actually come from where you assume it did. It looks more like the work of some well-meaning obot who thought they needed to substantiate the claim by Charlette that Anna was Stanley Ann Dunham.

Anna wasn't supposed to surface. It was most inconvenient that she did.

I can't recall, but I doubt if Corsi ever tracked down Madolyne Lawson.

Let's leave it there for the time being, I'll see if there's more on her somewhere. The U of W is probably NOT responsible...and what is needed is the original enrolment documents, which I believe include photographic ID.

363 posted on 12/19/2016 3:49:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

‘There’s been nothing to show that the material provided to Corsi by email did actually come from where you assume it did.’

Of course there has been corroboration. A, the UoW never disavowed the info—not even when conservatives published it and then seized on it to mock and ridicule Obama—and B, the classes/credits appear on SA’s permanent transcript. The info has been more than amply confirmed.


364 posted on 12/19/2016 3:56:53 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I don’t recall how conservatives published ‘it’ and then seized on it to mock and ridicule Obama. I think maybe your shirt tails are hanging out. Nothing has been more than amply confirmed. I just searched for Corsi’s possible contacts with Madolyne Lawson, (other than the supposed emails she sent him) and all I have found so far is this:

http://www.wnd.com/2009/07/105341/

from which reference to Madolyne Lawson by Corsi has been removed, and when I traced it to it’s source through the archives, I found it came from Atlas Shrugs.

Now, having posted what appears to be the original email somewhere back on this same thread, from which to TO FIELD had been removed, I quit for now. That emailed information is about as convincing as the LGBC with it’s many layers.

Btw, the Hawaii Dep of Health hasn’t disavowed the patently fake BC either, so why would you expect the U of WA to step up and do so? The perps might be still on their payroll.

And now I’m outa here, I’m getting giddy from going round in circles. Have a lovely day, nothing personal meant, no need to get upset about it all. One day the truth will out all on its own.


365 posted on 12/19/2016 4:29:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

‘Btw, the Hawaii Dep of Health hasn’t disavowed the patently fake BC either, so why would you expect the U of WA to step up and do so? The perps might be still on their payroll.’

Because the BC helps obama, while the transcript hurt him.

As to the mockery and ridicule—it was real/happened. I just used a search engine for, ‘dreams from my father pack of lies,’ and got too many links to copy and paste. The central point of ridicule is the claim that Stanley Ann and Obama Sr lived together as man and wife for two years, while in fact SA was in Seattle and Sr was in HI. You can replicate this search for yourself, if you need corroboration.


366 posted on 12/19/2016 4:45:10 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

You still here? I thought we had done with it.

My final thought.

It would have hurt him a whole lot more if it came out that Anna Obama had absolutely nothing to do with Stanley Ann Dunham, and the woman Mary baby-sat for had a child in January 1961 named after its father, Barack Hussein Obama 11.


367 posted on 12/19/2016 5:49:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I just reread an account of how Obama used Stanley Ann’s and Obama Sr’s “improbable love,” to launch his national career. His personal story was the cornerstone/foundation upon which he based his appeal and destiny. He had to; he had nothing else upon which to justify—at least in the eyes of the LIVs—his outsized aspirations.

Having all that shot out from under him by the UoW transcripts was a disaster. No one could have predicted the degree to which the Leftist media would ignore it—though the new media did their best to spread the word.

As to the rest, I can but reiterate the main points:

UoW would not have lied/committed academic fraud to discredit Obama/make a laughingstock out of Dreams. Had they been willing to lie, it would have been to help obama, not to destroy the underpinnings of his political career.

Some women had fifty yo memories re SA and the baby. It’s possible that they were honestly confused after so many years, and got details wrong. It’s also possible that they purposefully lied, either on their own or with prompting, in an effort to help Obama. Since it’s impossible to know the degree of accuracy embodied in their statements, they should be taken with a grain of salt.

Using a variant of one’s own name is not unusual. If the same address is listed for Ann as for Anna, they are almost certainly the same person. [UoW listed SA as residing at that address.]

No published researcher has raised doubts that the person in Seattle taking classes ‘61 was Stanley Ann—not even on such sites as WND or American Thinker. Considering the degree to which conservative researchers have picked apart the details of Obama’s and SA’s narratives, the possibility that they are ALL missing a major hoax is statistically negligible.


368 posted on 12/19/2016 6:14:19 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

...and the whole Christian world believed that the sun revolved around the earth, once upon a time, but that didn’t make it so.


369 posted on 12/19/2016 6:51:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fantasywriter

One of us has to end this futility, I’m closing down and going out.
Don’t worry, be happy.


370 posted on 12/19/2016 6:53:41 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Noted. But for a university to disavow—or confirm—a transcript is not on the order of a scientific breakthrough/paradigm shift. It’s just a routine academic order of business. SA’s fall of ‘61 classes/credits appear on her permanent record—confirmed.


371 posted on 12/19/2016 7:05:27 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fred Nerks

I strongly suspect that the other “sensitive material” related to “this issue” that Arpaio mentioned, will make its way into the news, once Trump is in the WH and Sessions is the AG.


372 posted on 12/19/2016 8:15:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; Fantasywriter

Regarding name variants, people who hate their name (or hate their life) may try out one or more new name variants or names. One of my brothers went from a shortened version of his middle name (which he used throughout childhood) to his first name.

However, it seems that an Anna would be much more likely to go to Ann than the reverse and Fred Nerks makes a good point that Stanley Ann has a fairly consistent record of keeping intact at least the “Ann” part of her name.

Aka obama has a record of lying about nearly everything. He may not have known who he really was as a child, but he must have known his true origins by the time he was out of high school. If he is not an Obama at all (nor a Dunham) and was given the aka obama identity as toddler, then debunking the Anna and baby in Seattle lie would be much more damaging than would be a little white lie about when Ann and Obama Sr. supposedly separated.

Is there any thread on FR about how Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf crossed paths? Is there any documented evidence (letters, photos, etc.) that places them together and especially together as likely lovers?

On most forums I am a relative expert about aka obama, but here there is so much information that I can’t keep up with it all and the trails left by the meager scattered bread crumbs are faint and confusing (so many possibilities and the obots have done a good job of picking up the real crumbs and laying down false ones). I just hope that someday while I am still around that the truth about who aka obama really is comes out.


373 posted on 12/20/2016 4:19:07 PM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: elengr

The UoW confirmed that Stanley Ann lived at the address listed for Anna Obama. As I have explained a couple of times, my college roommate went from Ann to Anna, and after a while, back to Ann. The odds of a woman named Stanley Ann Obama (who in HI called herself Ann S. Obama) and an entirely different woman named Anna Obama, occupying the same apartment are miniscule...if not zero.


374 posted on 12/20/2016 4:43:56 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls.tes JoeProbono)
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To: elengr

Jerome Corsi:

‘the Seattle Polk Directory listing is for a “Mrs. Anna Obama,” a variant of her name that most researchers have considered to be Ann Dunham.’

Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2009/07/105341/#OxYc5RuXJol8sLdQ.99


375 posted on 12/20/2016 5:14:02 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls.tes JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I fully concede that Stanley Ann might have used the name Anna. With the aka obama story anything is possible. However, although both stories are quite possible, Fred’s version seems more likely to me. Whatever the truth is, I am just bugged and upset that it is hidden from us.


376 posted on 12/20/2016 5:20:06 PM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: elengr

You believe it most likely that a woman named Ann S. Obama and a woman named Anna Obama both occupied the same apartment?


377 posted on 12/20/2016 5:22:07 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls.tes JoeProbono)
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To: elengr
A search on Sarruf yields two hits, both from the Summer of 2012:

Obama's 'missing year' at Columbia found?

Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)

378 posted on 12/20/2016 5:29:32 PM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: elengr

The UoW awarded credits for four classes to the occupant of the address listed for Anna Obama. These credits appear on Stanley Ann’s college transcripts.


379 posted on 12/20/2016 5:34:16 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls.tes JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Do you actually believe that I believe what you wrote or were you just being facetious?

Just like aka obama’s fraudulent BCs, SSNs and draft registration, I believe that he or his minions have created many altered, fake documents.

Aka obama does not look at all like his purported father or much like Stanley Ann for that matter.

If Obama Sr. married or had a child with another (Asian?) Anna, that might have been the Seattle child. Did Corsi get the U of W records second hand? If so, they could be forged or altered.


380 posted on 12/20/2016 5:40:31 PM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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