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[Fred Nerks]

Did you read what I wrote there?

Then we see an image I picked up off Google Images recently, which looks like it might be an out-take from video. The man is obviously Barack Obama. No date of course. But the image directly below it shows it was taken on the same day and it's dated in 1970.

[Fred Nerks]

I think you are too quick. You are looking for instant answers. There aren’t any. Study the subject and try to place the images in context.

[WildHighlander57]

Also, the background is the same in both the color pic in #615 and the one with the 4 kids from Mark’s book. Fence & brick/stonework.

The color pic in your post #615 has parts of two other pics in the background, as if it’s part of a video of a family album; one can see the black page with the pics on it.

Given the subjects of the pics - “the Kenyan” and the kids, and the kids by themselves, at the pool party - it’s family album pix of Mark.

That pic of the kid in the U of Hawaii shirt is of a different kid altogether, than the two youngest ones. Even though the skin tone is close, the head shape and feature placement is different.

[WildHighlander57]

I’m giving supporting reasons for what you said.

“Then we see an image I picked up off Google Images recently, which looks like it might be an out-take from video. The man is obviously Barack Obama. No date of course. But the image directly below it shows it was taken on the same day and it’s dated in 1970.”

[WildHighlander57]

Ear shape of left hand boy, and that of the boy in the white dress shirt are different.

(White dress shirt boy is the right hand pic of the second row)

[Fred Nerks]

You've also got that early image of David, and Joseph and Richard to play with. Where do they all fit? Joseph was supposedly a toddler when zero saw him in 'Dreams' - but we are told zero went to Kenya for the first time in 1987/88 - in fact, several reports out of Kenya have him there in 1983, just after the old man was buried.

Hey, there are even reports (links later) that the son of the Kenyan attended the funeral. He came on his own and left quietly. That son couldn't have been Mark or the mythical David, because the old man was killed in 1982 when Mark was 17 and living in the US.

It's Christmas Day here. Family will be here soon, have a Merry one and a Happy New Year!

[Fred Nerks]

If you want anyone to follow what you are writing, post the pictures. Now I’m closing down, have to start preparing Christmas lunch.

[little jeremiah]

Merry Christmas, Fred!

[GregNH]

Those two boys, IMHO, are Mark and Zippo. The facial features, ears, and hair lines match Mark and Zippo. The picture of David does not match either of these two little boys, period.

[exit82]

Merry Christmas to you all!

I want you to know that many of us here appreciate all of your research on Obama, and your search for the truth.

It must feel like a lonely road sometimes,but your efforts are noted by many.

I encourage you all to keep seeking the truth.

So much damage has been done by Obama to our country and to the world.

The truth must be found and exposed, and let the chips fall where they may.

It will help protect our nation from such deceptions in the future.

[little jeremiah]

The truth must be found and exposed, and let the chips fall where they may.

It will help protect our nation from such deceptions in the future.

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Absolutely essential. Justice MUST be served.

[Fred Nerks]

The young man in front of the red curtain and the young man behind Richard and Joseph appear to be the same young man. 'David' or not, doesn't seem to matter...that's one more boy identified. Sort of. Ruth said that the Kenyan had other children in the home in Nairobi, one was a cousin he was paying to educate, and sometimes there were so many people in the house she didn't know their names and would stumble over them in the passage.

The real fly in the ointment seems to be that neither of the two boys in the image that Mark put on his website, can be identified conclusively as 'David and Mark.'

[bgill]

I’ve said for 8.5 years that the Birth Index needs to be found. Granted, it’s easy to forge since pages are removable but it’s original, handwritten and cross referenced. It is the index for the BCs. Any deviation in the pages themselves, the handwriting and the ink used is a huge tell. Since the clerk’s office would employ a handful of clerks, the forgers would need to have the same number proficient in forgery to pass handwriting analysis. It’s doable but more involved than merely copy/paste a BC and fake a newspaper birth announcement.

[bgill]

They won’t let Viriginia’s own brother see her BC or get a copy.

[bgill]

Send the request again and again and again until they respond. Send your letter to Trump.

[bgill]

I read that the state of Hawaii refused to submit such a document so Pelosi wrote one herself

Back when, I found the Tennessee DNC certification's dates were messed up. No way was it done on accident because the rubber stamp would have been used on hundreds of documents that day and someone would have noticed the year was wrong. It was signed off on by State Secretary, Mr. Daniels, iirc. It's back on some thread years ago.

[SatinDoll]

None of that matters.

According to Maddy Payne Dunham’s relatives visiting Hawaii from Kansas in the mid-1970s, Grandma Maddy told them her grandson had died. She only had one grandson and that was Barak H. Obama II who had been adopted by Lolo Soetoro and given the name Barry Soetoro.

Lolo Soetoro had adopted six Indonesian street kids before he even met Stanley Ann in Hawaii. Those six are who Freepers should be looking at.

In 2009, when President Obama and First Lady Obama were visiting Europe, MI6 managed to acquire some DNA from the President. When tested, the results surprised them because it wasn’t afroid and caucasoid but Austronesian, which is typical of Indonesians. The President was not related to any of the Dunhams.

[bgill]

“I never understood how the birth announcement was in the Honolulu paper only three days after the birth though the announcement does not to my knowledge show where the birth occurred.Newspaper announcements do not ever list where the births occur.”

Mine was posted around the country in various newspapers in the same time period as his. Many times back in those days, proud parents or grandparents called in the announcement to the paper. The newspaper isn’t faking anything by publishing a birth in Arkansas in an Alaskan paper or wherever because the location is never mentioned.

What surprises me is there doesn’t seem to be an article in the society section of the birth. Sr. had more than his fair share of articles because of whom he was or rather what he represented. Big man on campus from Kenya and all that. Yet, nothing about the wedding and nada about the happy melding of the two countries within the baby. On (medical doctor) Dr. Robert Kelley’s blog (friend of Madelyn’s and boardmember at Punahou and CEO of Outrigger and missions to Kenya with Barry’s teacher Hefty)...

*** Just had an ah ha moment. Maybe all roads lead back to Kelley. Perhaps he provided a baby. Abercrombie claims to have “been there” but he lied. Dr. Kelley has been there since before day one. Remember the “Stanley had a baby” statement from some woman? Could be that Stanley Ann GOT a baby. I’m telling you, there’s more to Kelley and he likes to talk.

There was once a site that had letters written to Zero upon him being elected POTUS in ‘08. The site was close, moved, etc. so don’t know where to find it now but from someone who missions in Kenya so maybe related to Kelley but don’t remember. They were titled, “Reminisces” of their good friend Sr. NONE of them ever remembered Stanley and knew NOTHING about a baby. Perhaps someone can find if they’re still online.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/11/08/business/business-breaking/outrigger-hotels-sold-to-denver-based-ksl-capital-partners/ - Outrigger recently sold so don’t know where Kelley’s blog is but it had a WEALTH of info on Zero.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrkelley

http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/kelley-family-and-outrigger-timeline/

[bgill]

Blake, however, anchors the date of the visit to late August 1961 by referring to a young baby, "pink and very new."

Who knew Barry was ever pink?

[Seizethecarp]

“My only quibble would be that President Trump himself does not need to deal with the criminal fraud of Zero/Barry, his Attorney General would, with a cleaned out and rejuvenated DOJ at his disposal.”

Congratulations on your response!

But you call that a “quibble”? And look who jumped to second David’s offensive statement in the next comment. Are these two “researchers” serious FReepers dedicated to upholding the Constitution, like you and the rest of us are?

Sorry, but I don’t feed trolls, so I won’t ping them or their leader to this comment who persists in pushing the “Baby David never existed” delusion.

Every time side-by-side pictures of Baby Barry and Baby David are shown, it only reaffirms the forensic and time line evidence offered by Mark that Barry and David are half brothers from the same father and two different white mothers.