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To: Nero Germanicus
Well, the state of Hawaii may not have stood by the documents to your satisfaction but they issued Certified Letters of Verification for the Obama long form birth certificate that were received by 12 elected and appointed Republican governmental officials:

But "letters" written while not under oath, are not proof of anything. Hearsay in writing doesn't amount to anything. I have looked at these statements by these officials involved. There was always a loophole in them.

The information came from a book written about the 2012 election: “Double Down: Game Change: 2012”

I thought that would be your source. I was aware of it, and that someone wrote this claim in a book is not proof of anything. Still, if Obama has such a document, I would find it more persuasive than anything that came from the state of Hawaii.

403 posted on 12/20/2016 12:00:48 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

No official who received a letter of verification refused to accept it without sworn testimony but I’m certain that the Hawaii Registrar could provide that if anyone ever required it.

Certified Letters of Verification are authorized by Hawaii Revised Statute HRS §338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy. (a) Subject to the requirements of section 338-18, the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.
(c) Verification may be made in written, electronic, or other form approved by the director of health.
(d) The fee for a verification in lieu of a certified copy shall be a maximum of one half of the fee established in section 338-14.5 for the first certified copy of a certificate issued.
(e) Fees received for verifications in lieu of certified copies shall be remitted, and one half of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the vital statistics improvement special fund in section 338-14.6 and the remainder of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the state general fund. [L 2001, c 246, §1; am L 2010, c 55, §1]

Kapiolani Hospital has a vested interest in Obama being born there. They used his birth to fundraise for their Centennial anniversary in 2009.


410 posted on 12/20/2016 1:59:21 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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