Posted on 12/21/2016 5:56:55 AM PST by KeyLargo
Illinois losing 1 resident every 4.6 minutes, could fall behind Pennsylvania in population
Jobs + Growth / Article December 20, 2016
Illinois has record loss of 114,000 residents to other states in 2016 as population shrinks by 37,500.
Imagine the entire population of Peoria, Illinois’ seventh-largest city, all picking up and moving across state lines in one year, never to work, pay taxes or create jobs in Illinois again. That’s equivalent to what happened to Illinois over the past year: New migration data from the U.S. Census Bureau show that from July 2015 to July 2016, Illinois lost 114,000 people, on net, to other states, a record high for the Land of Lincoln.
Now consider the permanent loss of the combined populations of Illinois’ 10 largest cities outside of Chicago: Aurora, Rockford, Joliet, Naperville, Springfield, Elgin, Waukegan, Champaign and Arlington Heights, along with Peoria. The loss of these 10 cities’ combined populations approximately equals Illinois’ net loss of population to other states since 2000. Illinois has lost some 1.22 million people, on net, over the past 16 years.
(Excerpt) Read more at illinoispolicy.org ...
Moved to Idaho from Illinois 14 years ago.
I think the number would be huge. I grew up and lived in Illinois for most of my life but fled 11 years ago. Everyone I knew there that could leave has left. Those that stayed did so because of work or they have kids in school.
Illinois was a great place once, but between the illegal wetbacks, high taxes,high crime, and the legendary Firearms Owners Identification Card (FOID Gun Card), there's just no reason to be there anymore.
Bingo. I'm only vile and cranky to the a-holes who think we're all vile and cranky here, btw.
I know I would have left had I lived there. Yes, the jobs and kids, along with financial constraints were the reasons I was referring to by stating if they could. I have a friend that lives up there and he remains only because his wife does not want to move away from the kids, who are all grown and have kids of their own.
I'd be open to some non-a-hole Illinoisans...just was my experience buts it's been a while. I may have changed and not take offense now understanding their underlying message. Have known people in the military like that...: )
I’m happy to say that I know a wonderful young man who fled Chicago to move to Indianapolis a little over a year ago. Since then, he has worked hard to save enough money, first for a nice used truck, and most recently, is a proud new homeowner for the first time. He has since brought his father and elderly grandma to live with him, and is so overjoyed with life in the metro Indianapolis area, that he is sending money to his sister and brother in law to help them move their family in the next 2 years. He is a hard worker, of Polish descent, and I love getting updates when he works on some project at my home.
Closing on a house in TN next week. I pains me to see what has happened to IL. Lived here all of my 62 yrs. have watched the farmers gradually lean rat because of the subsidies. The ethanol scam is bondage to guvmint.
I have lived just south of Rock Island county all these yrs. they have raised taxes a lot and are still after more, threatening loss of services.
Too bad that there isn’t a law forcing anyone on a state pension to keep living in IL, or be forced to give it up.
Seems we do have more than our fair share here. I experience it whenever I have to commute into Sh*tcago to work several times a week. Let me know next time you're going through our "fine" part of the country. Lunch and a round or two on me. :-)
Merry Christmas!
rule of thumb in illinois politics says that a candidate in statewide race must get 37% of cook county vote to have any chance of winning
dropped one (from 19 to 18) after last census/remap
Welcome to Left Coast (Washington, Oregon & California).... same scenario here.
Thx, IL is doing better than NYS, then. NYS has gone from a historical high of 43 to the 27 we currently have.
You got it...: )
Yes, but if they are leaving Chicago, it means one thing, and if they are leaving downstate, it can mean something else.
Chicago so dominates the legislature, that the rest of the state has been getting the short stick for years. So if the population of Chicago (2.7m), or Chicago Metro (9.4m) takes a big hit, it could change the balance.
Right now, the rest of the state outnumbers Chicago by a lot and Chicago Metro by a couple of million.
Warehouses do pay as good as manufacturing. It’s not enough to save the inner city. It continues to crumble. Go across the state on 80 and see all of the growth in the Quad Cities is on the Iowa side of ol Muddy.
Correction: don’t pay as good....
“Not to defend Illinois, but even without a budget, a $7.8 BILLION deficit and $13.00 minimum wage, business is booming.”
Yes, but the warehouse type jobs are not what a failing Illinois economy needs.
Jobs + Growth / Article
December 15, 2016
Illinois’ uncompetitive workers’ compensation system doesn’t just hurt private sector businesses – it is also costing taxpayers more than $400 million per year.
When it comes to workers’ compensation costs, Illinois’ political and business leaders focus primarily on how the system affects private sector businesses, which pay the highest workers’ compensation costs in the Midwest.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/broken-workers-compensation-system-costs-illinois-taxpayers-millions/
Three reasons AFSCME has so much power over Illinois taxpayers
Mailee Smith, Illinois Policy Institute Nov. 28, 2016, 9:12am
Imagine an employer knowingly paying an employee to do work that will undermine the employer. What’s more, that employee is allowed to spend company time complaining publicly about the employer.
December 05, 2016
What’s the real reason government pensions are suffering?
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Greg Hinz on Politics
Though state and local government pension woes often get blamed on high benefits and low contribution rates, there’s another factor, neatly highlighted by figures released today from Cook County Treasurer Maria Pappas: demographics, particularly the impact of an aging workforce.
According to the data Pappas shared at a City Club speech today, 130 of the county’s 549 taxing districts—schools, villages, cities and the like—have more retirees drawing benefits than current workers putting money in. And the ratio of workers to retirees is headed in the wrong direction.
“People always stop me and ask why their taxes are going up. This is the answer,” at least in part, said Pappas. As the ratio of workers to retirees declines, the way to balance the books is to get more money from taxpayers or cut back on what the old folks get.
Pappas developed the data from annual reports that each taxing body is required to give her, per a county ordinance.
Some of the figures are absolutely frightening.
For instance, dozens of villages and school districts in relatively prosperous areas such as Orland Park, Glenview, Oak Park and Arlington Height now have lots more people taking out than paying in, a trend that generally is only partially handled with proceeds from past investments by pension funds. Retiree-to-worker ratios of 2-to-1 or even 3-to-1 are not uncommon.
Real estate forecast for Chicagoland home prices, sales worst out of 100 metro areas
Illinois Business Daily Reports | Dec 6, 2016
Illinois remains most expensive state in Midwest for workers’ compensation
By Michael Lucci
Chapters
1: Background
2: Changing costs over time
3: Findings from 2014 and 2016 Oregon studies
4: Conclusions and solutions
5: Endnotes
The regulatory cost of doing business in Illinois remains the highest in the Midwest for workers’ compensation, according to the 2016 Oregon Workers’ Compensation Premium Rate Ranking study.[1] Illinois’ out-of-balance workers’ compensation laws contribute to the Land of Lincoln’s loss of industrial investment and blue-collar job opportunities. Illinois manufacturing firms often cite workers’ compensation as a primary reason for the loss of rewarding industrial job opportunities in Illinois.[2] And taxpayers cover the cost of workers’ compensation for government employees and for workers on public construction projects, making workers’ compensation an important government budgetary issue.
Under the present "winner-take-all" system, Chicago delivered 20 EVs - the rest of the state might not as well have not voted. Under the CD system, it would have only delivered four or five.
Check out this What If? for your state (using 2012 data, 2016 not available yet).
Key Largo - I totally agree with your numbers and observations, that is why all of the business expansion in Illinois defies logic.
Warehouse and distribution is still classified as Industrial Space.
In 2015-16 Illinois - Mostly on the I-80 &55 corridor, 87 new companies moved in from other states.
In 2016, Q2 &3 = 17.3 Million square feet of industrial buildings being developed.
The old Joliet Arsenal Property is nearly full due to the growth of the BNSF Inter-modal.
Wilmington, Elwood and Joliet are adding 1000’s of new jobs to staff the building boom.
It is crazy and does not make any sense, but it is the reality of what is going on with business growth in Illinois.
Once the CREATE project untangles and unjams the bowels of Chicago's freight yards and facilitates movement through the area, it will become even more desirable as a location for distribution.
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