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Evacuations for 180K+ people near Lake Oroville to stay in place
KCRA Sacramento ^ | February 14th, 2017 | Sarah Heise

Posted on 02/14/2017 6:09:46 AM PST by Mariner

While more than 180,000 residents remain evacuated from their homes in Butte, Sutter and Yuba counties, there is no timetable as to when people can return home as water officials and engineers assess the damage and situation at the two damaged Oroville Dam spillways, the Butte County sheriff said Monday.

As tensions remain high around the area, some good news came early Monday morning when water levels at Lake Oroville dropped below capacity, stopping water from spilling over the potentially hazardous emergency spillway.

However, officials are still looking to lower the lake another 50 feet to less than 850 feet elevation to allow space in the lake for the upcoming storm, projected to arrive Thursday. Dropping the lake levels that much without increasing outflows could take several more days, KCRA meteorologist Dirk Verdoorn said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; dam; evacuation; evacuations; lakeoroville; oroville; orovilledam
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They can't let anyone go back home until they are certain the water will not reach the emergency spillway and flow over.

It is simply not possible to repair a structure this massive in a few days.

And they cannot be certain until June at the earliest.

1 posted on 02/14/2017 6:09:46 AM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Sounds awful. Might mean that some should not return.


2 posted on 02/14/2017 6:12:23 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Mariner

And, just over a year ago, they were complaining about Lake Oroville being too low...


3 posted on 02/14/2017 6:13:13 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Mariner

This is a ploy to get Federal assistance.


4 posted on 02/14/2017 6:23:28 AM PST by jennychase
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To: JRios1968

4-6 inches of rain expected in the mountains above Oroville from Thursday - Monday.

Rainfall plus the snow it melts.

Inflows will be back to 200,000+ cfs by Monday.

https://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Paradise%2C+CA

Outflow capped at 100,000 CFS.


5 posted on 02/14/2017 6:23:44 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jennychase

Not it’s not.

The area is simply not safe.

However, they could allow a 48 hour window for people to go back and get some stuff.


6 posted on 02/14/2017 6:25:17 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

If ever there were a physical picture for 1st graders of why Rats should not run the country, this is it. Big. Bold. Picture.


7 posted on 02/14/2017 6:25:22 AM PST by Wneighbor (A pregnant woman is responsible for TWO lives, not one. (It's a wonderful "deplorable" truth))
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Considering the traffic jams that occurred after the initial evac, if they let folks in to get stuff, they’d better do a better job of managing traffic the second time around. That first evac was a charlie foxtrot.


8 posted on 02/14/2017 6:28:25 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Mariner

...any reports of looters?


9 posted on 02/14/2017 6:28:50 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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They can not let anyone back in until they are sure there are no breaches weakening the dam.

This dam was very dry for a long time. Think about ground that has gotten dry....it cracks. In a dam that fills up rapidly after a drought it is very, very dangerous because water rushes into those cracks and creates holes, on top of that this dam broke the spillway causing craters on the other side and erosion then went over the emergency spillway eroding the dam from there also. Both sides might be compromised not just one.

This dam could have leaks going through it and it is still to wet to see. If in the days ahead those leaks get bigger and break.....if you let people back in below the dam....well you get the picture. They need months of dry weather to fix this situation and they are going to get more rain.

10 posted on 02/14/2017 6:30:17 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Wneighbor

This whole thing reminds me of the last half of Atlas shrugged.


11 posted on 02/14/2017 6:34:25 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Yes, it does. Should be required reading. That’s just one on my list.


12 posted on 02/14/2017 6:38:59 AM PST by Wneighbor (A pregnant woman is responsible for TWO lives, not one. (It's a wonderful "deplorable" truth))
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To: JRios1968

They were correct. Lakes had evaporated.

California was bone dry. Millions of trees dead. Orchards and evergreens.

On the opposite side of our globe, there has been snow in deserts of the Arab world.

Interesting times.


13 posted on 02/14/2017 6:43:10 AM PST by Kay
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To: Mariner

180,000 people evacuated with no notice and no prospect of return is Front Page news.


14 posted on 02/14/2017 6:49:49 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The danger was the uncontrolled overflow. That has stopped. The dam itself is in no danger of failing.

I see no reason to keep the people away from their homes.

When the water begins rising again, then perhaps another (more orderly) evacuation could begin.


15 posted on 02/14/2017 6:50:31 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The rain begins anew tomorrow evening.


16 posted on 02/14/2017 6:53:19 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: JRios1968
It's incomprehensible that they didn't repair dams while the water was low and the weather was dry. Does anyone have a clue how to repair a soaked, at capacity dam and the land surrounding it which has been compromised by overflow and monumental rain?

A real danger is that something unexpected, that hasn't been identified for its flaws, will be what causes calamity.

17 posted on 02/14/2017 6:58:16 AM PST by grania
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To: Mr. Douglas

“This whole thing reminds me of the last half of Atlas shrugged.”

I have had Atlas Shrugged collecting dust on my bookshelf for years but never read it. I will start today.


18 posted on 02/14/2017 6:58:48 AM PST by pinkandgreenmom
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To: jennychase

Apparently, you haven’t seen any video footage or pics of the damage to the spillway, ground erosion and damage to surrounding roads. That dam and spillway are severely compromised.


19 posted on 02/14/2017 7:01:57 AM PST by ScottinVA ( Liberals' agony is my entertainment.)
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The fear is that up to seven million may have to be evacuated because if the auxiliary spillway at Oroville bursts, we may be talking flooding all the way down to San Pablo Bay! :-O
20 posted on 02/14/2017 7:03:58 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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