Posted on 02/19/2017 5:54:30 AM PST by davikkm
Homeschooling families throughout the nation are voicing opposition to a Republican-sponsored school choice bill that they say will ultimately result in regulation of homeschooling in the United States. Many parents who homeschool their children, as well as their numerous local and national homeschooling organizations, are protesting the bill, introduced by Iowa Rep. Steve King (R), and calling upon the members of Congress who are its sponsors to leave homeschooling families alone.
School vouchers created by H.R. 610, the Choices in Education Act of 2017, would be a slippery slope toward more federal involvement and control in homeschooling, asserts William Estrada, director of federal relations for the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA).
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Perhaps conservatives could nudge society in this direction by reducing government's role to simply requiring literacy and numeracy.
My suggestion would be that any child who scored above a certain level on the SAT or ACT would be given an official high school diploma from their local high school and forever after would be free of any government oversight. I would think 6th grade reading and arithmetic skills should be enough. Also, the GED should be open to all children regardless of age.
The next step would be elimination of all of the government's compulsory education laws. Hey! The liberal-Marxists use incrementalism. Why not conservatives?
All ( by law) are godless in their religious worldview. That is the worldview ( by law) that is taught minute by minute in these godless government classrooms.
Children in government godless classrooms WILL learn to think and reason godlessly. They MUST just to cooperate with in the godless classroom, and with the godless curriculum, godless textbooks, and godless homework.
How can it possibly be “good” for any government to teach a child to think and reason godlessly, and to destroy the God-centered values taught in the home?
How can it be “good” for government to threaten parents and children with police and court action if the refuse to cooperate with this EVIL EVIL indoctrination?
How can it be “good” to threaten citizens with police and court action if they refuse to fund this evil?
There are NO NO NO “good” government schools. None!
Wrong answer.
Once a parent chooses to steal other people’s money, via property taxes, to educate their child, they also lose their own money, they lose control of their child. Govt money always has strings, and they do not care about your child.
The plan does not matter.
Vouchers, Charter, Public, all raise Stupid Children.
Home School, smarter kids, is 4 years ahead of, Public stupider kids.
NO Govt plan can change a Public kid’s life disadvantage.
What would be your plan? How do we shut down the government indoctrination camps and move toward complete separation of school and state?
Parents who care enough will have find the way.
Parents that don’t care enough will simply screw up the schools that are working. There are endless stories of how many good schools have been ruined by bussing inner city students into them.
Private schools are the last refuge away from this.
“There are no good government schools.”
There certainly are,but it’s not worth discussing any further.
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Good? ...No way!
And...You are correct. There is nothing to discuss because the above can NOT be refuted.
There certainly are,but its not worth discussing any further.
Two of my children attended a great private school. The school was having financial difficulty and didn’t want to increase the already expensive tuition so they opened it to low income students paid for by the state. Within 5 years the school closed. The low income students didn’t abide by the dress code, didn’t do the class work, and were disruptive. I stayed for 2 years until my son graduated but took my daughter out of the school and sent her to the Catholic school where her other two brothers were enrolled. Other parents did the same.
I asked my daughter the other day why she and her brothers were so well behaved. She said I always told them if they gave me any trouble I would put them in public school and to them that was a fate worse than death.
A Jewish grandmother who I knew when I was young said the children in Philly would taunt each other about their respective religions at the turn of the 1900’s.
The reason why homeschoolers are concerned is that we don’t want anything with strings on it. No one told Abe Lincoln’s mother he could only read state-approved books for his education. If there are vouchers they will be forced to be used on approved whatever, classes, curricula... homeschoolers tend to want absolute freedom to choose how they educate their kids. And I agree. (I only homeschool 2 classes for one middle schooler because he is at a hybrid school)
Thanks Yaelle. I get it now.
I wouldn’t want any strings either...I am hopeful that there aren’t any. If there are, I’m sure many homeschoolers will forego them and have to pay twice like they are now.
Milton Friedman proved that State funding of Universities benefits the UPPER middle class at the expense of the poor, and likely middle class also. When parents vote pro property tax, school bond, FIRST they lose control of their OWN money. SECOND, wealthier folks gain better access to that money, over parents interests.
The best practice is home school, who are way ahead academically.
Say bye bye to your school taxes, BUT those just make your child's competition, dumber. That is a good thing in life, sad to say.
If public school is still desired, finding a new school helps, before the State has time to settle in mediocrity.
UPPER MIDDLE: If a parent seeks the better school district, Milton was correct, they exist in the richer UPPER middle class areas. The richer get the tax money.
REGULAR MIDDLE: The best choice for middle class parents is home school, allying with friends, with parental hard work.
And yes, VOUCHERS = QUASI WELFARE.
It was someone here on FR that made me realize we homeschoolers should not want any return on our property taxes, because there will ALWAYS be strings attached. Now I try to think of the property taxes as protection money, to keep them out of our hair. Sounds like this bill might change that balance.
I agree with you. No strings. I too will pay the Leave Me Alone $.
My younger kids have never been in the public schools, but they have heard the horror stories from my oldest, who was in public schools until 7th grade. I admit that I sometimes use the threat of attending there as a way to instill good behavior. They watched the news reports recently of a local teacher duct-taping her student to his chair and threatening to kill students in a bar, so I think that helped with the reinforcement as well! Their fear is not unreasonable, in my view.
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