Posted on 03/07/2017 8:23:43 PM PST by Helicondelta
To be entirely honest, you and I both have to concede that President Trump has out-strategized his many enemies over and over, all the way to the White House, and beyond -- all the way to overturning the narratives about him. So, while I might initially have a reaction of surprise that President Trump would sign on to this rather disappointing bill, I'd have to look to the many wins this man has racked up, and assume that there is a greater plan. I'd have to assume he's not done on Obamacare yet.
Still, a simple repeal would have gone a long way to mollify his base.
Was that a shot?
I thought we got along.
It's not all we wanted, but if LS is accurate, it's better than two empty hands.... and who knows what can happen after that.
In a nutshell, that illustrates the failure of 'conservatism.'
When you speak truth it brings the knives. Trump is a liberal domestically and fiscally but the moment you pull out that truth the personality cultists will attack.
Thanks for sharing truth
Oh ok! :)
“And I feel sorry for you.”
Why?
Clearly it’s late where you are if you can’t recognize sarcasm without a tag.
no sympathies for her she seems a greedy power hungry woman who manipulates like the best of them.
Linda and McCain engage in their freaky sexual practices only after watching Gladiator movies.
I think Trump was using Graham to deliver a message to McCain.
I think you're right. Trump's being very Hegelian here. Very dialectic. Abstract-Negative-Concrete.
Ah, hadn't thought of that. Linda's about the only person who can get through to the old SOB.
Trump has been "praising" the GOPe folks doing all the GovernmentCare writing, but you can bet he's getting pissed as they do everything they can to keep the government elbow deep in it instead of backing the hell out. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rand Paul and maybe even never-Trumper Mike Lee visiting the WH in the near future.
I trust President Trump, and do not think he is “playing” me.
My understanding is that President Trump is pivoting over to Rand Paul and Ted Cruz to repeal Obamacare.
Paul Ryan wants an Obamacare light. While congress is moving in the right direction. It’s not enough. Hence Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.
I think if Ted Cruz is successful, then a Supreme Court seat will be in his future. Which would be great all around!
Look, let’s make it simple.
Obamacare can’t be repealed because the pro-repeal forces don’t have the votes. And if 51 votes in the Senate would do the job, they STILL don’t have the votes.
The two most popular parts of PPACA - pre-existing condition coverage and coverage as a child to age 26 - are untouchable. Expanded Medicaid (without tax increases) is almost as popular. Once you concede you will sell someone fire insurance after their house burns down, you will need a funding mechanism.
So, if the House Republicans have 218 votes for “clean repeal” (I doubt they do), but they keep pre-existing conditions and 25-year old children (because they must) then the economic death spiral leading to nationalization will worsen. But even at that, I doubt there are 30 votes in the Senate for a clean repeal.
To move forward, someone who is profiting from the status quo has to get it in the neck - and I think, after the political process plays out, the Ryan bill fails and Trump’s popularity falls as a result, it is the insurance companies that will be walking the plank.
Medical and hospital care paid for by other people’s money, however collected and however paid out, is fundamentally a political issue. As long as the government takes from you and gives to me to pay my bills, you will want a say in how the money is spent.
Medicare and Medicaid both, in different ways, promised to pay without limit for all medical and hospital services for people covered by them that could reasonably be expected to produce a benefit. Paying without limit with other people’s money is a nice idea, but, as we see, in practice it is unsustainable.
One way or another (presuming our form of government survives), the state must be able to produce a budget for what it will spend on health services. Under the assumptions that govern Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, the refugee programs, and others, this is impossible.
Something has to give. I agree with (and pray daily for the survival of) some free market aspects in health care, but the only way this is going to happen is with a national single payer universal basic coverage scheme with a private option.
Obamacare will not survive. Romney-Ryan care can’t pass. Full-on user pays will close most hospitals and practices within a few months.
I believe Trump will propose a single-payer scheme after Ryancare collapses. I hope he sees the wisdom of a private option. But, one way or another, single-payer will be a reality.
Obamacare replacement is obamacare lite or RINO care because ALL of these politicians including the Gop politicians are owned by Soros.
Only Donald J. Trump is not owned by anyone and is why the Donald is the only on on the side of freedom and the American people.Trump is his own man and is for America
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