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Did Obama Spy on Trump? (Judge Napolitano)
RCP ^ | Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 03/17/2017 11:26:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Today the National Security Agency has 24/7 access to the mainframe computers of all telecom providers and all computer service providers and to all digital traffic carried by fiber optics in the U.S. The NSA has had this access pursuant to FISA court orders issued in 2005 and renewed every 90 days. The FISA court has based its rulings on its own essentially secret convoluted logic, never subjected to public scrutiny. That has resulted in the universal surveillance state in which we in America now live. The NSA has never denied this.

Thus, in 2016, when Trump says the surveillance of him took place, Obama needed only to ask the NSA for a transcript of Trump's telephone conversations to be prepared from the digital versions that the NSA already possessed. Because the NSA has the digital version of every telephone call made to, from and within the U.S. since 2005, if President Obama last year wanted transcripts of Trump's calls made at any time, the NSA would have been duty-bound to provide them, just as it would be required to provide transcripts of Obama's calls today if President Trump wanted them.

But if Obama did order the NSA to prepare transcripts of Trump's conversations last fall under the pretext of national security -- to find out whether Trump was communicating with the Russians would have been a good excuse -- there would exist somewhere a record of such an order. For that reason, if Obama did this, he no doubt used a source on which he'd leave no fingerprints.

Enter James Bond.

Sources have told Fox News that the British foreign surveillance service, the Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, most likely provided Obama with transcripts of Trump's calls.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: judgenap; judgenapolitano; obamagate; obamatrump; trump
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To: RoosterRedux

If soebarkah denies it, he did it. That’s what comes from being a pathological liar.


21 posted on 03/17/2017 12:26:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: RoosterRedux
Just going on the assumption that politicians will do anything and say anything to win elections, I would say yes. I would further assume that physical bugging in the Trump tower penthouse was at least attempted.

Was it Russians? - yes

Was it Chinese? - ditto

Was it Brits? - ditto that

Was it Germans? - mega dittos

Was it Mongolia? - unlikely

22 posted on 03/17/2017 12:59:35 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: 9YearLurker

Rush was talking about this, this AM. How ignorant reporters were not investigating enough to understand Merkel and Trump had a lot in common.....BO’Bs ears and eyes peaking over their shoulders. Our President is witnessing the media lose its mind along with its prestige.


23 posted on 03/17/2017 1:08:07 PM PDT by V K Lee (If all the nations in the world are in debt, where did all the money go?)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yep


24 posted on 03/17/2017 2:01:45 PM PDT by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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To: RoosterRedux

He deflected to the judge.....without naming him.


25 posted on 03/17/2017 2:04:35 PM PDT by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Repeat five times: “The voice is not stored.” Then say, “The voice is turned into text.” All the laws concern the storing of voice as in a tape recording. These laws have been left in the past with the advances in technology. We have gone from old analog storage of conversation to digital and from digital to text. Then you can do a word search like you do in a document of text. However, searches are now done with high tech software.

Then, there is the matter of high tech bugs. Technology has come a long way with micro circuitry. Bugs can be wireless micro cameras powered by lithium batteries with micro wireless microphones. Your own smart phone can become a bug. Soon bugs will fly into a room and land on top of a picture frame.


26 posted on 03/17/2017 2:15:36 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: reasonisfaith

They think the “means justify the ends”.


27 posted on 03/17/2017 5:04:08 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: RoosterRedux

NSA’s open budget is around 10 billion. Snowden said it was around 50 billion off the books per year for surveillance and data collection in 2012, if I recall. Homeland Security, whose yearly budget is 41 billion or so and employs 229,000 thousand people estimates a wall on the USA’s southern border will cost around 20 billion and no one knows where the money will come from.

They can’t even tell us how many of our supposed fellow citizens work for the NSA, it is estimated to between 30,000 and 40,000. The NSA is the largest employer in Maryland. Think about that.

I doubt there is ever going to be any draining of these particular swamps. We haven’t even had 65% eligible voter turnout since 1908. Congressional elections in off years get around 40% eligible voter turnout. Who knows if that is good or bad. The point is there’s many that just don’t care.

Freegards


28 posted on 03/17/2017 5:10:34 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: jonrick46

If someone is recording your voice phone calls, whether they are storing them as text or not, they are breaking the law if you were not made aware of the recording and they did not get a subpoena. This includes the phone company. I’d love to see this end up in the SCOTUS.


29 posted on 03/17/2017 7:12:50 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

What if the British record all US calls, and the US records all British calls. Then the captured data is exchanged. I don’t know if that is what happens, but it seems to me there might not be any laws to prohibit this, given the ability to capture actual conversations really exists. Does either state need a subpoena to record the conversations of non-citizens on foreign soil?

FReegards


30 posted on 03/17/2017 8:25:46 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

The phone company, so far, has to be in on it.

But you are right. Since calls are wireless, it is not a stretch to imagine calls being captured and recorded without the help of the phone company. And obviously they contain enough digital metadata to identify the caller.


31 posted on 03/18/2017 7:37:22 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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