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1 posted on 03/22/2017 5:34:29 AM PDT by ShivaFan
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Ted Cruz is an assh8le and will never be elected


2 posted on 03/22/2017 5:35:51 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Cruz is now chairing the committee that will oversee the NASA mission to Mars. He’ll be busy for the next 30 years. Winning.


3 posted on 03/22/2017 5:50:02 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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You are going to stroke out, you need to chill. I know it’s heresy to even mention here but maybe Trump isn’t right on this Ryan care thing. It might do more damage to the economy in the long run if the Republicans pass a bad bill and the Democrat machine can saddle them with a label. If the Republicans lose too much ground in the mid terms you can kiss Trump’s agenda good bye. The where will we be?


4 posted on 03/22/2017 5:52:09 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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Saw this here this morning:

Trump met with House Republicans in a closed-door session to warn them that failure to pass this bill is not an option. According to some lawmakers, he told anyone thinking of voting no that “I'm going to come after you, but I know I won't have to because I know you'll vote yes.”
Repealing The ObamaCare Train Wreck Has Become A Train Wreck
(Investor's Business Daily ^ | 4/21/2017 | Staff
Posted here on 3/22/2017, 7:06:41 AM )

Coming after you?

5 posted on 03/22/2017 5:55:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Don't call it Trumpcare until he does!)
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Market declined Tuesday because of the odds that AHCA will not pass the House, not the other way around. THe market wants Ryan’s agenda to be fulfilled.


7 posted on 03/22/2017 6:01:02 AM PDT by babble-on
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Getting cold feet after betting the farm in the stock markets?


8 posted on 03/22/2017 6:01:24 AM PDT by MilesVeritatis (Devote yourself to the truth, no matter where it leads you.)
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The most idiotic, nonsensical post I have seen at FR for a long time. Ryancare is rubbish. Period. It needs a be killed. Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan are heroes for fighting against Ryancare.
9 posted on 03/22/2017 6:06:20 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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As a Trump supporter I am concerned about the Obamacare Repeal and Replace Bill. Besides Rand Paul, there are many Conservative Organizations mobilizing opposition to RyanCare.

If the Republicans do not have the backbone to outright repeal Obamacare, then the Republicans should let Obamacare implode as it is on course to do.


10 posted on 03/22/2017 6:08:25 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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How are the markets doing today?


13 posted on 03/22/2017 6:15:41 AM PDT by deport
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I would suggest that instead of accusing every single good intentioned Republican or Conservative of trying to sabotage Trump’s presidency ( NOT TRUE ) simply because they do not agree in every policy with him, we objectively look at the issue that needs to be faced.

Let’s look at healthcare for instance. There are five factions in this battle.

1) The Democrats and the political left want government-run healthcare, in the form of universal coverage and/or single-payer.

2) Conservatives ( Count me in this bucket) want free market reforms without government involvement.

3) The establishments of both parties (e.g. Paul Ryan ) want only the status quo, slow walking any changes to the point that nothing changes.

4) A majority of Americans believe the federal government should make sure everyone has healthcare coverage.

5) Lastly President Trump has a goal of “insurance for everybody.”

Many folks in this forum talk as if trying to reconcile every single one of the above desires is easy. IT ISN’T.

What is unfair is to tar and feather every single person who disagrees with Trump as a sabotager with ill-intentions.

So, here’s how I see how a compromise could to more or less, reconcile the above disparate.

REMEMBER: The default is Obamacare, which is not working, is unpopular, leaves millions without insurance and is in a financial death spiral. Nothing changes until something changes.

Whether or not one likes it, A DEAL HAS TO BE MADE and Trump, the consummate deal maker will have to be in the thick of it.

My own thought is this:

TWO PLANS RUNNING IN PARALLEL SIDE BY SIDE.

1) PLAN A: Medicaid-for-all

2) PLAN B: free-market driven private insurance industry, free from government interference.

You get to choose which one you prefer.

PLAN A: Medicaid for all will include catastrophic coverage. Exactly what insurance is designed to protect against. The unexpected and expensive.

To analogize this with car insurance, This is for the car wreck, the accidents, not the oil change or new wipers.

Details can be worked out.

This should satisfy the political left as it provides their holy grail of universal coverage, and makes concern over preexisiting conditions moot. As well as the majority of Americans who by, “a 76 percent to 24 percent majority also agrees that since most other advanced countries can afford to provide universal health insurance, so could this country.” (See here: http://www.theharrispoll.com/politics/Health-Care-Moral-Issue.html )

PLAN B: Market driven private insurance. You are free to reject PLAN A and join PLAN B.

In Plan B, wegovernment out of the rest of the insurance business. No mandates. No essential benefits. No requirement for individuals to purchase insurance or for employers to provide it. An open market. Purchase what you want and need. Price competition and transparency.

Let individuals choose how to spend their money. Like purchasing other types of insurance – auto, home, disability, life, and so on.

Let health insurance companies nationwide COMPETE to provide their service just like every single insurance companies do for other types of insurance.

Many will be happy with their “free” Medicaid. Others will choose to purchase up for coverage of what they deem important. No one will be left uncovered.

That’s how I see how we can compromise given the practical reality we have to face with.


17 posted on 03/22/2017 6:27:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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See..you shouldn’t have skipped your meds yesterday.


18 posted on 03/22/2017 6:35:41 AM PDT by libh8er
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The Republicans in Congress should have taken Pres. Trump’s advice and left Obamacare to collapse on its own. Ryan’s plan will be a failure, and if it passes, the GOP will own it.


20 posted on 03/22/2017 6:38:25 AM PDT by txrefugee
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“Rand Paul is trying to be relevant. Ted Cruz thinks he is going to run for President in four years by undermining Trump and purposely undermining the economic rally.”

Don’t know what you are smoking, but it definitely is wacky.


21 posted on 03/22/2017 6:40:44 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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I thought the Dow was 14,000 when Trump came in, now over 20,000. Don’t you mean the Dow is up 6,000?


24 posted on 03/22/2017 6:45:11 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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Are you going to weigh in on your own vanity?


26 posted on 03/22/2017 6:52:52 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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Repeal is the only thing to do. This baloney about 60 votes to repeal is just that. If the Republicans really wanted Obamacare gone they would as a man stand up and take up Trump’s refrain that it’s a disaster. Instead most of them just leave Trump to twist in the wind. If they stood up they would get the 60 votes plus. They don’t even need that...they can change the stinking rule to whatever they want and make it a 50 plus vote.


27 posted on 03/22/2017 6:57:48 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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< P > are our friends...


35 posted on 03/22/2017 7:21:49 AM PDT by Popman
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Anyone opposed to RyanCare, is not undermining the economy or trying to undermine Trump’s presidency. RyanCare is a flawed plan.

Folks, the savings accounts and interstate insurance aspects don’t come with the initial bill. No, the two best ways to reduce the costs will come in phases two and three, way down the road.

Further, there is the very real chance phases two and three will never be enacted.

Do it all now. Get it done.

RyanCare is wrong headed, breaks the faith, and is an insult to the American public.

It should be despised as much as ObamaCare.

It’s nothing more than the GOPe flipping off the people who didn’t buy into the weasel Jeb Bush.

Trump, you can do better than this.


42 posted on 03/22/2017 7:31:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To put Ted Cruz in the same category with McCain and Graham is a big error. Cruz is a Conservative all the way through.

President Trump is human and has said he will make some mistakes. He may be making one by supporting Obamacare light.


46 posted on 03/22/2017 7:41:24 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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Trump is WRONG on Ryancare.
48 posted on 03/22/2017 7:44:16 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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